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OK I slightly scanned the manual and did not totally
RTFM.

However I noticed that when I would do a crappy lap
the pit board would show a good time. When I did a good
lap many times the pit board would show a poor time.
I finally figured out that the pit board must be showing you
the lap times from the previous lap! YIKES!!!!

I am having fun though :-)

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cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

Yup Greg...the pit board lap times are indeed delayed by one lap. Anyone
notice that the pitboard is hardly (if at all) mentioned in either of
the two GPL printed manuals? It is of course mentioned in the readme.txt
file.

Having a blast here too, Greg. The Logitech FF wheel is a great
enhancement to GPL and has replaced my TM GP1 wheel and it's
paddle-based throttle/accelerator. And even though I'm slow as a slug
(1:37:66 at Monza), it's still great fun. Seems like I could beat that
time in my real '94 Mustang GT (gimme a fresh set of Gatorbacks though).
8)
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Sergey Zakharov

That is the case.  In '67 they had to put the numbers on the board and hold
them up when the driver came around the next time.  You get used to it.

I am having a little difficulty though, with some of the new lap board
placements in GPL 1.1.  It seems as though some of them are in the toughest
places to look :/

Well other answered the main question, but..

You finally got GPL ?  Wow you did the correct step!.  r.a.s. would love to
have a mini-review of what you finally think of GPL, and compared to the
other sims on the market.  Finally you got it ! hehehe.

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Yes I got it. It is quite allot of fun too. Especially when you get the
brake bias setup correctly, or closer to what you need :-)

As for the mini-review. Well if anyone other than the official
mental ras person thinks it would be a good thing, then I
would consider it. However I would feel somewhat foolish
to post a mini-review after everyone has used this game
for quite some time. But the FF is new and that is what
pulled me in. I do know already that I would not like the
game much without FF :-)

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The only one that changed in 1.1 was at the Nurburgring, which was
moved to the straight that is parallel to the front straight.  This
gives your pit board guy time to stuff all the letters/numbers on the
board for the current lap.

Randy

Have you done your first lap at the Nurburgring yet ? :)
Or the first time you get airbone at the Flugsplatz and actually not wreck
after ? ;)
The first time you trail-brake into the Parabolica with a Lotus ? :)

Look at my signature Im not anymore the OMGuy of r.a.s. :)

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Hey now,
don't kick a man when he's up.

:>

I was in some of Alison's races last night (and so were you in fact :-),
anyway in many of the races my pitboard guy would find the strangest
places to line himself up, i think he were playing practical jokes on
me! :-)

First race (monza) was ok.
Second race at Mosport he decided to position himself just out of the
last turn instead of at the end of the s/f straight. No big deal as I
still got to read my pitboard on the s/f straight.

Third race however (silverstone) he started really having fun with me!
This time he figured an appropriate place to show the pitboard was in
the middle of Abbey! As you might image it was quite hard to both figure
out what he was trying to tell me and make the corner! At least I could
blame him when I caused a huge pileup there on lap 1 :-) (of course he
didn't show the board on lap 1, but he was there so I blame him :-)

Fourth race (Spa) and he went totally mental when he picked the second
most ridiculous place on the track to position himself (on the entry to
Malmedy). Needless to say I never both made the corner and figured out
what the board said!

Figuring I had had enough of the guy and it was about time to fire him I
exited gpl and re-entered in hope of getting a more sensible
pitboardguy, and for the next race at Zandvoort he was back to where he
should be (although this time I was discoed).

Now thinking this had been a one time problem, a little later in the
evening I tried to join a Monza race (again at Alison's). But now my
very funny board guy was back this time positioning himself in the
middle of Ascari! And I wo had thought I had fired the guy!

Ok so obviously there's some problem here... Did experience this problem
once some months ago in 1.0 (board at Ascari at Monza that time), but it
was only for that one race and never happened again until tonight when
it happened 4 times!
BTW I'm still using the original track.ini for all the tracks in
question.

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Arne Martin

Does the host have control over lap-board placement in an on-line race?  
I've been seeing it in very wierd places on VROC at tracks like Rouen
(Just before Six Freres) and Silverstone (at Abbey) - I just tested those
two tracks in practice and everything was fine :/

David Cook

Don't think so... I had two Monza races at Alison's server last night.
In the first one the pitboard was in it's normal place, while in the
second it was at Ascari!

Also seen the board at Abbey at Silverstone, as well as at Malmedy at
Spa, and in T10 at Mosport.

I think the pitboardguy has become bored and starting to have fun with
us! It used to be just bogus intervals, now he's gone further and change
position from race to race :-)

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Arne Martin

On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:11:54 +0200, Arne Martin

I think so. Its place is defined in the track.ini-file, like the
starting grids. AFAIK the hosts track.ini file is used by every client
in an multiplayer race - that's why online hosts should have installed
the online-starting grids for cleaner starts.

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Matthias Flatt

But even if the grids are from the host's track.ini, doesn't mean
everything else from the host's track.ini is used. I've been using an
edited track.ini at the ring to place the pitboard on the backstraight
for months (not quite the same place where it is placed in after 1.1
patch, a little further down and on the other side), but when hosting
races I've never heard anyone mention that their pitboard was on the
backstraight as well, in fact on the contrary I've heard others say that
they***up T1 due to the pitboard again :-)
And the other way round: when I join anyone else's race at the ring I
still get my pitboard where I have placed it in my track.ini file.

Also this doesn't explain my probs at Monza last night, first race was
ok, second pitboard was at Ascari on the same host on the same evening!
Don't think Alison was having fun changing her track.ini while we were
racing :-)

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Arne Martin

And don't ever have the misfortune to start from the pit lane. You will only
register your first lap after the end of your third lap if your pit stall
happens to be in front of the start line. This effectively puts you a lap
down and hence effectively out of the race.

Mark

Is it the same guy holding the pit board who paints the lines for the grid?
I ask this because a few nights ago I was in a race at Silverstone where we
had an unconventional start. When we all hit the green flag to go to the
start line, Mr Scotty beamed us all across to half way along the hangar
straight. We all sat there for an extremely long time owing to the fact that
the started had not been told about this change of plan. He was waving his
flag furiously in front of the pits of course <G>

Mark