rec.autos.simulators

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

Glenn Andresse

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Glenn Andresse » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

This is something I've been meaning to clarify.

When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time
of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished.

It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like
it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what?

Glenn

Ian

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Ian » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Glenn,

Essentially, it's done that way in GPL because that's the way it was
done in 1967.  Don't forget, this is in the days before electronic
timing and scoring, and the whole thing was done manually by someone
sitting on the pit counter with a stopwatch.  When the driver crossed
the S/F line, the person doing the timing would pass the lap time to
the person manning the pitboard who would then dig into his box of
numbers and put the appropriate time on the board.  The driver would
get the info next time by the pits.  In that era, without electronic
timing and pit-to-car radio communications the driver was always a lap
behind in knowing what his lap times were.  So, in effect, GPL is
remaining true to the era.

Ian


>This is something I've been meaning to clarify.

>When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time
>of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished.

>It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like
>it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what?

>Glenn

Bufor

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Bufor » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 20:18:55 +1000, Glenn Andressen


>This is something I've been meaning to clarify.

>When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time
>of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished.

>It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like
>it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what?

>Glenn

That's the way it is in real life. How fast do you think they can read
the stopwatch, write it down, and tell the pit board guy and how fast
can he write in chalk? .00001 tenths of a second? A driver always gets
a board for the lap previous to the one he is just finishing now
unless there is a spot on the track the crew can see about 20 seconds
prior to the pit board location. In that case they may do their timing
there.
Mike Barlo

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Mike Barlo » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

    if you take a look in the track.ini files, you'll see a line for the pit
board.  There you can edit it to show either the previous lap (default) or
the lap you're on.  I took a quick glance at it but haven't looked hard
enough to say what to edit.

--


>On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 20:18:55 +1000, Glenn Andressen

>>This is something I've been meaning to clarify.

>>When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time
>>of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished.

>>It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like
>>it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what?

>>Glenn

>That's the way it is in real life. How fast do you think they can read
>the stopwatch, write it down, and tell the pit board guy and how fast
>can he write in chalk? .00001 tenths of a second? A driver always gets
>a board for the lap previous to the one he is just finishing now
>unless there is a spot on the track the crew can see about 20 seconds
>prior to the pit board location. In that case they may do their timing
>there.

Bruce Kennewel

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 06 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Back then the times were recorded by hand, Glenn.  Electronic scoring was
years away. As the car crossed the line the time was recorded via
stop-watch, usually by a team member, and then that info was applied to the
pit board manually. Of course, by the time that task was finished the driver
was well into the next lap!

So when he came around to complete the lap the pit board would display his
time/position for the preceeding lap.

I believe that it is possible to change this in GPL but am not personally
aware of how it's done.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


NanaKo

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by NanaKo » Thu, 06 Apr 2000 04:00:00

That's the way it was in real life then...Without all the nice inventions we
have now...

-NK

Bruce Kennewel

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 06 Apr 2000 04:00:00

But we had "nice inventions" in 1967 too.
Every era has its share of "nice inventions", NK :-)
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


Richard G Cleg

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Richard G Cleg » Thu, 06 Apr 2000 04:00:00

: Glenn,

: Essentially, it's done that way in GPL because that's the way it was
: done in 1967.

  It's the way pit-boards are now too.  The mechanics have to have time
to put the numbers on the board.


:>This is something I've been meaning to clarify.
:>
:>When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time
:>of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished.
:>
:>It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like
:>it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what?
:>
:>Glenn

--
Richard G. Clegg       Only the mind is waving
    Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group
      Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York
     UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Mark Aisthorp

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Mark Aisthorp » Thu, 06 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Glenn
It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board
by moving the little guy with your pit board.

You can do this by editing the track.ini files,
look for the line  pit_board = ,
The first and second numbers determine where
he stands in the track area (longitude & latitude).
You have to place him further past the start/finish line than
normal.

The main problem is finding a suitable place for him to stand
i.e. not in the braking area for the first bend.
 So far I have only tried it on monza but it works great,
I've e-mailed it to Glenn to try, if anyone else want's it
e-mail me and I'll send it to you

Mark


Glenn Andresse

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Glenn Andresse » Sat, 08 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for the responses!
Glenn

> Glenn
> It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board
> by moving the little guy with your pit board.

> You can do this by editing the track.ini files,
> look for the line  pit_board = ,
> The first and second numbers determine where
> he stands in the track area (longitude & latitude).
> You have to place him further past the start/finish line than
> normal.

> The main problem is finding a suitable place for him to stand
> i.e. not in the braking area for the first bend.
>  So far I have only tried it on monza but it works great,
> I've e-mailed it to Glenn to try, if anyone else want's it
> e-mail me and I'll send it to you

> Mark



> > This is something I've been meaning to clarify.

> > When I complete a lap in GPL, the pit board comes out and shows the time
> > of the previous lap, not the one I've just finished.

> > It occurs to me that I have become used to it, but I don't really like
> > it. Is it a setting that can be changed, or what?

> > Glenn

Andre Warrin

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Andre Warrin » Sat, 08 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Mark, what numbers do you use for Monza?

On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:53:53 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe"


>Glenn
>It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board
>by moving the little guy with your pit board.

>You can do this by editing the track.ini files,
>look for the line  pit_board = ,
>The first and second numbers determine where
>he stands in the track area (longitude & latitude).
>You have to place him further past the start/finish line than
>normal.

>The main problem is finding a suitable place for him to stand
>i.e. not in the braking area for the first bend.
> So far I have only tried it on monza but it works great,
>I've e-mailed it to Glenn to try, if anyone else want's it
>e-mail me and I'll send it to you

>Mark

Bruce Kennewel

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 08 Apr 2000 04:00:00

45 degrees, 35 minutes north; 9 degrees, 15 minutes east, Andre.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> Mark, what numbers do you use for Monza?

> On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:53:53 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe"

> >Glenn
> >It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board
> >by moving the little guy with your pit board.

> >You can do this by editing the track.ini files,
> >look for the line  pit_board = ,
> >The first and second numbers determine where
> >he stands in the track area (longitude & latitude).
> >You have to place him further past the start/finish line than
> >normal.

> >The main problem is finding a suitable place for him to stand
> >i.e. not in the braking area for the first bend.
> > So far I have only tried it on monza but it works great,
> >I've e-mailed it to Glenn to try, if anyone else want's it
> >e-mail me and I'll send it to you

> >Mark

Mark Aisthorp

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Mark Aisthorp » Sat, 08 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Ok I've e-mailed the track.ini to one other person so far,
but thinking about it I might as well just post it hear.
At Monza, change the pit_board = to
 pit_board = 21.0 275.0 -100.0 100.0

Mark


> Mark, what numbers do you use for Monza?

> On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:53:53 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe"

> >Glenn
> >It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board
> >by moving the little guy with your pit board.

Andre Warrin

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Andre Warrin » Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Works perfect Mark, thanks. After 2 years of 'lap time is from the
former lap' I really had to get used to this, and allthough
historically not accurate, I really like seeing the laptime from the
last lap :)

Does anyone have coordinates for the other tracks too?
Would save me a lot of trial and error...

Andre

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:37:22 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe"


>Ok I've e-mailed the track.ini to one other person so far,
>but thinking about it I might as well just post it hear.
>At Monza, change the pit_board = to
> pit_board = 21.0 275.0 -100.0 100.0

>Mark



>> Mark, what numbers do you use for Monza?

>> On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:53:53 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe"

>> >Glenn
>> >It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board
>> >by moving the little guy with your pit board.

Don Scurlo

GPL: Why is the pit board a lap behind?

by Don Scurlo » Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Nurburgring:

pit_board = 11.0 1200.0 -100.0 100.0    

It would be great if some kind, generous, intelligent soul figured out
the coordinates for all the rest of the tracks.



>Works perfect Mark, thanks. After 2 years of 'lap time is from the
>former lap' I really had to get used to this, and allthough
>historically not accurate, I really like seeing the laptime from the
>last lap :)

>Does anyone have coordinates for the other tracks too?
>Would save me a lot of trial and error...

>Andre

>On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:37:22 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe"

>>Ok I've e-mailed the track.ini to one other person so far,
>>but thinking about it I might as well just post it hear.
>>At Monza, change the pit_board = to
>> pit_board = 21.0 275.0 -100.0 100.0

>>Mark



>>> Mark, what numbers do you use for Monza?

>>> On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:53:53 +0100, "Mark Aisthorpe"

>>> >Glenn
>>> >It is possible to see the current lap time on your pit board
>>> >by moving the little guy with your pit board.

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. As this group was always unmoderated there may be some spam or off topic articles included. Some links do point back to racesimcentral.net as we could not validate the original address. Please report any pages that you believe warrant deletion from this archive (include the link in your email). RaceSimCentral.net is in no way responsible and does not endorse any of the content herein.