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ECCI vs TSW pedals

Brian Bowle

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Brian Bowle » Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:55:50

I currently have a logitech momo wheel and pedals. It si the one with the
red base. As you are aware of the pedals are not real easy to use. I would
like to buy some pedals. I need some suggestions deciding between the TSW
pedals and the ECCI 6000 pedals. The TSW pedals cost less. Some suggested to
me that the adjustability of the ECCI pedals was worth paying more. I use a
desk and a computer chair to drive. Any suggestions? Thanks !!!
Steve Smit

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Steve Smit » Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:55:54

Are the ECCI 6000s the "tractor" pedals?  If so, be aware that they feel
kinda clumsy to use, and unlike the other ECCI pedals, offer no real
adjustability over any other pdeals.  The TSW pedals are well nigh
bulletproof, and are "adjustable" by the simple expedient of installing
different springs and/or pots.


JP

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by JP » Sat, 11 Dec 2004 11:33:35


  I'd take the tsw myself, but ymmv.  To me, some ECCI pundits fall into the
"Of course it's the best !  Why ?  Umm, I don't know, but, well it must be,
because it costs more !" mindset.

Mitch_

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Mitch_ » Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:02:44

I bought the ECCI 6000 Pedals (top pivot) specifically for the Momo Force.
It basically piggy backs onto the original pedal plug.  The unit ECCI had in
stock included the PMB2 option but if I could have made the choice I doubt I
would have got it again (these arent the 3000 series tractor pedals).  All I
can say is they are simply awesome in every respect.  Great ergonomic
adjustability for nearly any type of seating position.  Absolutely
bulletproof and should last forever.  Well worth the $300 I paid.  I
purchased a couple extra Momo wheels so Im set indefinitely as my original
Momo stills works perfectly after 2+ years of moderate use.

Mitch


John Simmon

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by John Simmon » Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:56:09



I have the ECCI wheel and pedals, and both parts are really nice and
well-made. While I've never seen/used the TSW stuff, I've never seen
anything but good comments about them.

Steve Smit

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Steve Smit » Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:08:04

I'm sorry - yes, the 6000 pedals are built like a Porsche and should be
great if the top-hinge ergonomics work for you.  The 3000 pedals are also
built like a Porsche...but drive more like a Rolls Royce Silver Wraith.


> I bought the ECCI 6000 Pedals (top pivot) specifically for the Momo Force.
> It basically piggy backs onto the original pedal plug.  The unit ECCI had
in
> stock included the PMB2 option but if I could have made the choice I doubt
I
> would have got it again (these arent the 3000 series tractor pedals).  All
I
> can say is they are simply awesome in every respect.  Great ergonomic
> adjustability for nearly any type of seating position.  Absolutely
> bulletproof and should last forever.  Well worth the $300 I paid.  I
> purchased a couple extra Momo wheels so Im set indefinitely as my original
> Momo stills works perfectly after 2+ years of moderate use.

> Mitch



> >I currently have a logitech momo wheel and pedals. It si the one with the
> >red base. As you are aware of the pedals are not real easy to use. I
would
> >like to buy some pedals. I need some suggestions deciding between the TSW
> >pedals and the ECCI 6000 pedals. The TSW pedals cost less. Some suggested
> >to me that the adjustability of the ECCI pedals was worth paying more. I
> >use a desk and a computer chair to drive. Any suggestions? Thanks !!!

Brian Bowle

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Brian Bowle » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:55:59

I think I have decided to get the TSW pedals. Is there any real need to pay
more and get the three pedal version? Thanks!!!



>> I currently have a logitech momo wheel and pedals. It si the one with the
>> red base. As you are aware of the pedals are not real easy to use. I
>> would
>> like to buy some pedals. I need some suggestions deciding between the TSW
>> pedals and the ECCI 6000 pedals. The TSW pedals cost less. Some suggested
>> to
>> me that the adjustability of the ECCI pedals was worth paying more. I use
>> a
>> desk and a computer chair to drive. Any suggestions? Thanks !!!

> I have the ECCI wheel and pedals, and both parts are really nice and
> well-made. While I've never seen/used the TSW stuff, I've never seen
> anything but good comments about them.

Dan

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Dan » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:37:56

Dude dont get the TSW.The ECCI pedals are universally rated the best
around.They have inumerable configurations and adjustments while the TSW's
are just two pedals poking out of a box.
The ECCi are also as close as you will get to the genuine pressure
modulation of a real brake pedal, while the TSW seem to rely on the usual
spring tension and travel system you see anywhere.
Everyone thats used ECCI rates them over anything else they have ever used,
and looking at the products it doesnt seem even close.


>I think I have decided to get the TSW pedals. Is there any real need to pay
>more and get the three pedal version? Thanks!!!




>>> I currently have a logitech momo wheel and pedals. It si the one with
>>> the
>>> red base. As you are aware of the pedals are not real easy to use. I
>>> would
>>> like to buy some pedals. I need some suggestions deciding between the
>>> TSW
>>> pedals and the ECCI 6000 pedals. The TSW pedals cost less. Some
>>> suggested to
>>> me that the adjustability of the ECCI pedals was worth paying more. I
>>> use a
>>> desk and a computer chair to drive. Any suggestions? Thanks !!!

>> I have the ECCI wheel and pedals, and both parts are really nice and
>> well-made. While I've never seen/used the TSW stuff, I've never seen
>> anything but good comments about them.

Dan

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Dan » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:39:12

Dont post when you dont know shit.The ECCi pedals have more adjustments and
configurations than anything on the market and certainly more than the TSW
"pedals out of a box" setup.


> Are the ECCI 6000s the "tractor" pedals?  If so, be aware that they feel
> kinda clumsy to use, and unlike the other ECCI pedals, offer no real
> adjustability over any other pdeals.  The TSW pedals are well nigh
> bulletproof, and are "adjustable" by the simple expedient of installing
> different springs and/or pots.



>> I currently have a logitech momo wheel and pedals. It si the one with the
>> red base. As you are aware of the pedals are not real easy to use. I
>> would
>> like to buy some pedals. I need some suggestions deciding between the TSW
>> pedals and the ECCI 6000 pedals. The TSW pedals cost less. Some suggested
> to
>> me that the adjustability of the ECCI pedals was worth paying more. I use
> a
>> desk and a computer chair to drive. Any suggestions? Thanks !!!

John Simmon

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by John Simmon » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:27:51



Only if you want to drive with a clutch pedal.

Uwe Sch??rkam

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Uwe Sch??rkam » Mon, 13 Dec 2004 03:49:07


> I think I have decided to get the TSW pedals. Is there any real need to pay
> more and get the three pedal version? Thanks!!!

Hey Brian,

I like my TSW pedals, they're easy to maintain and give a good feel
(esp. with the "squash ball brake" modification ;-)

cheers uwe

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Steve Smit

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Steve Smit » Mon, 13 Dec 2004 08:34:18

Don't post shit when you don't know***.  I've been using ECCI gear since
you were sucking a pacifier.  My 6000 pedals have exactly one adjustment:
the locking shaft around each pot.


> Dont post when you dont know shit.The ECCi pedals have more adjustments
and
> configurations than anything on the market and certainly more than the TSW
> "pedals out of a box" setup.



> > Are the ECCI 6000s the "tractor" pedals?  If so, be aware that they feel
> > kinda clumsy to use, and unlike the other ECCI pedals, offer no real
> > adjustability over any other pdeals.  The TSW pedals are well nigh
> > bulletproof, and are "adjustable" by the simple expedient of installing
> > different springs and/or pots.



> >> I currently have a logitech momo wheel and pedals. It si the one with
the
> >> red base. As you are aware of the pedals are not real easy to use. I
> >> would
> >> like to buy some pedals. I need some suggestions deciding between the
TSW
> >> pedals and the ECCI 6000 pedals. The TSW pedals cost less. Some
suggested
> > to
> >> me that the adjustability of the ECCI pedals was worth paying more. I
use
> > a
> >> desk and a computer chair to drive. Any suggestions? Thanks !!!

Dan

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Dan » Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:32:05

Doesnt it pretty much sum up the quality of the pedals that after you spend
all that money you still need to modify them urself with a squash ball???
People do that with shitty momo pedals, you shouldnt need to do that with
proper supposed top of the line pedals.



>> I think I have decided to get the TSW pedals. Is there any real need to
>> pay
>> more and get the three pedal version? Thanks!!!

> Hey Brian,

> I like my TSW pedals, they're easy to maintain and give a good feel
> (esp. with the "squash ball brake" modification ;-)

> cheers uwe

> --
> Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/
> Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E)
> GPG Fingerprint:  2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F  67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Uwe Sch??rkam

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Uwe Sch??rkam » Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:55:44


> Doesnt it pretty much sum up the quality of the pedals that after you spend
> all that money you still need to modify them urself with a squash ball???
> People do that with shitty momo pedals, you shouldnt need to do that with
> proper supposed top of the line pedals.

The quality of the pedals is excellent. Some people don't like that
"squash ball mod" or its feel on the brake pedal so there's no reason
to include it in the version that Thomas ships ;-)

Cheers,

uwe

--
Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/
Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E)
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Brian Bowle

ECCI vs TSW pedals

by Brian Bowle » Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:03:19

Thanks for the posts. I am still on the fence as to which ones to get......
The ecci pedals would look real nice with my steering wheel but are going to
cost me $80 if I do not get the brake modulator thingy. I have to add on $70
to the cost of the tsw pedals because I would need a usb adapter. I just am
unsure as to whether the extra $80 is worth it or not. I could use that
money somewhere else....


>> Doesnt it pretty much sum up the quality of the pedals that after you
>> spend
>> all that money you still need to modify them urself with a squash ball???
>> People do that with shitty momo pedals, you shouldnt need to do that with
>> proper supposed top of the line pedals.

> The quality of the pedals is excellent. Some people don't like that
> "squash ball mod" or its feel on the brake pedal so there's no reason
> to include it in the version that Thomas ships ;-)

> Cheers,

> uwe

> --
> Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/
> Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E)
> GPG Fingerprint:  2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F  67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61


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