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by **all..** » Tue, 10 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Can anyone with either a Thomas Super Wheel or an ECCI wheel comment on the
performance these 2 wheels? I have a T2 ..and the only thing I like about it
is where the gear shifter is. Do either of the above mentioned wheels have a
shifter similiar to the T2 or do you have to program a button to shift? Or is
the shifter just a lever behind the wheel? Any input will be greatly
appreciated as I am ready to shell down some $$ for a real wheel. <VBG>

by **zone** » Tue, 10 Jun 1997 04:00:00

: Can anyone with either a Thomas Super Wheel or an ECCI wheel comment on the
: performance these 2 wheels? I have a T2 ..and the only thing I like about it
: is where the gear shifter is. Do either of the above mentioned wheels have a
: shifter similiar to the T2 or do you have to program a button to shift? Or is
: the shifter just a lever behind the wheel? Any input will be greatly
: appreciated as I am ready to shell down some $$ for a real wheel. <VBG>

Let me start off by saying that they are both GREAT products.

I personally have a TSW, I used to have a T1 and had to get something
durable. I am very happy with the TSW. I hear they are having some
trouble meeting demand lately, but it should be corrected soon I am sure.

The ECCI is prettier, but is more that twice as expensive, and that is for
the low end version. It was hard to justify in my book, if you can get a
TSW I would highly recommend it, but if money is no object, go for the
ECCI, from what I have heard it is an awesome wheel as well.

Regards,

Todd

by **Charlie Mo** » Tue, 10 Jun 1997 04:00:00

>Can anyone with either a Thomas Super Wheel or an ECCI wheel comment on the
>performance these 2 wheels? I have a T2 ..and the only thing I like about it
>is where the gear shifter is. Do either of the above mentioned wheels have a
>shifter similiar to the T2 or do you have to program a button to shift? Or is
>the shifter just a lever behind the wheel? Any input will be greatly
>appreciated as I am ready to shell down some $$ for a real wheel. <VBG>

I can't really give you comments on the TSW because I don't have one
and I've never seen one in action, but I've got two teammates who both
own one and they speak very high of them. I called and talked to
Trevor once and he definitely is busy on producing more wheels so he's
doing something right:>... I do have an ECCI and it's like nothing
I've ever used. It even dropped on the floor and not a darn thing
wrong. Its so durable and quality made that you don't need duo-lock
(like velcro) or clamps to keep in on your desk... it's so heavy....
it won't move around on your desk. To give you a better perspective
of it's weight... you could take either the wheel or pedal unit of the
ECCI and hold it 6 inches above a T1 or T2 and drop it... you will
definitely crush the Thrustmaster wheel. It's got the feel of a T1
and the pedal unit is "the nuts.":>
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by **Joeri Co** » Tue, 10 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Why would someone want to crush a wheel?
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by **David Spark** » Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:00:00

>Can anyone with either a Thomas Super Wheel or an ECCI wheel comment on the
>performance these 2 wheels? I have a T2 ..and the only thing I like about
>it is where the gear shifter is. Do either of the above mentioned wheels
>have a shifter similiar to the T2 or do you have to program a button to
>shift? Or is the shifter just a lever behind the wheel? Any input will be
>greatly appreciated as I am ready to shell down some $$ for a real wheel.

The TSW has a sequential shifter on the console, just like the T2. It also
has the option of either buttons or F1-style paddle shifters on the wheel.
I highly recommend the paddle shifters, particularly if you plan to use it
for ICR2 or GP2.

I have no experience with the ECCI, but I think you'd be hard pressed to
find better bang for your buck than a TSW. It's somewhat crude when
compared to the high volume T2, but underneath the cover, it's built like a
tank, and it will probably be around for you to hand down to your
grandkids. ;)

If you want a more in-depth review, check out:

http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/Features/tsw.html

Unfortunately, there's a fairly large backlog of orders for TSW's right
now, something along the line of 3 months, so if you're interested, get
your order in early.

Dave Sparks
IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars
Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html
Hawaii Handle: davids

by **Berg** » Thu, 12 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Just curious David, why do you recommend the paddles over the buttons?

by **Brian Bus** » Fri, 13 Jun 1997 04:00:00

I've had an ECCI wheel for coming up to two years, no problems, works
well, great to drive, feels great. I wouldn't swap it for anything but a
new ECCI wheel. It was expensive but will last longer than me. It has
already survived two computers. The only other ecci owner I personally
know is just as happy with his.

Brian Bushe

by **Michael E. Carve** » Fri, 13 Jun 1997 04:00:00

: >Just curious David, why do you recommend the paddles over the buttons?

: Err.. to keep both hands on the wheel. Makes it feel like you are in a
: F1 or CART car..

The last time I check the CART boys still need to take their hands off
the wheel to shift and work other switches. I'm waiting for the F1 boys
to start using direct bio-feedback.

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by **Berg** » Fri, 13 Jun 1997 04:00:00

>>Just curious David, why do you recommend the paddles over the buttons?

>Err.. to keep both hands on the wheel. Makes it feel like you are in a
>F1 or CART car..

Err.. I don't have to take my hands off the wheel to shift with the
buttons on my CDS! Where the hell are your buttons?

by **Wolfgang Prei** » Sat, 14 Jun 1997 04:00:00

>: >Just curious David, why do you recommend the paddles over the buttons?

>: Err.. to keep both hands on the wheel. Makes it feel like you are in a
>: F1 or CART car..

>The last time I check the CART boys still need to take their hands off
>the wheel to shift and work other switches. I'm waiting for the F1 boys
>to start using direct bio-feedback.

Schumacher will be the first to go bionic. After all, he already is
the 25-million-dollar-man...

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by **Peter Gag** » Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Why don't you check out the F1 SIM (formerly the gp500).

It is very well built, and oozes quality.

All steel construction, leather bound 10" wheel, adjustable pedals, only
uses one joystick, but can be configured to use two, quick release
fixings, paddles behind the wheel, that turn with the wheel, and two
buttons on the wheel.

I have just purchased one, and am very happy, its not cheap, but if you
want quality.....

Search on Interactive Racing or Digital Edge or F1 Sim or GP500 for more
info.....

d:~))

**Peter**

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