rec.autos.simulators

When i turn this one on on the boot up screen it say 120Mhz(24x5.0) could
someone explain that... as my others where easy ass they said
PII450--PIII550---PIII600...etc easy to understand... also the computer
seems to shut down after about 1:1/2 hours of use and re-boots itself...
The Cpu temp is only 52 degrees.....?

BN780PRO... i`ve not found there web site yet either....?
The shop i got it from sell them as kits... motherboard, pro,h/sink,memory
and case....
It`s got a 300w PSU, as did my other case.. but it does the same in
both.....?
I need a brainy person to talk with...please someone help me...

ONLY 52deg? Unless your talking Farenheit, that's a tad warm!! And
wuld explain the crashes after 1-1 1/2 hrs.

The lesson here is to NEVER buy a no-name mobo, they are the heart of
your PC and should be high quality. If they don't have a website, then
they are not to be used!!!

Download SANDRA 2001 from www.download.com and check what speeds (cpu,
fsb, multiplier, temp, etc) that your system is at, because it can't
be running at 120mhz.

You should be able to adjust the settings manually with either jumpers
or in the bios, but you never know what's available with that mobo. If
I were you, I'd take it back and kindly ask the retailer for a brand
name mobo, even if it costs a bit more. Cheapies will only lead to
heartache...

Rafe Mc

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 12:15:40 +0100, "Paul Thompson"

That's not out of spec for a T-Bird. I've had mine running hotter than
that with no crashes.

Look in your manual for the correct jumper settings maybe? 1.4ghz
should be set to 10.5x133. You mb should detect the cpu and set clock
cycles and bus speed manually, but for some reason maybe it isn't and
you need to change it manually. Check to see that core voltage is set
correctly too.

Eldred.  
--
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Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59...

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Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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--Groucho Marx--

Yea, you might be able to lower the temp by using good quality thermal
grease and a top of the line heatsink/fan, but that's usually only
needed if you are overclocking. The *core* of the 1.33c is rated at
97c and a similarly clocked P4 is rated up to only about 70c (going
by memory here so may be off a degree or two). But, the T-Bird is
designed to tolerate higher temps than a P4.

If you are running at 50 deg plus, you ARE running hotter than
recommended, but if it's stable then it doesn't really matter too
much. But 60 is getting a bit much IMO, I'm surprised that they'd be
stable at that. What hsf are you using? You may want to invest in a
new one, for the sake of your poor chip!

BTW, my 1ghz chip runs at 35 deg, and only gets to 43 when running at
1.4ghz. Most people aim for high 30's, low to mid 40's in general, but
like I said, if it's still stable at high temps, then who cares?

Rafe Mc

The faster the cpu the more power consumption so the hotter it will
run. 43 is very low for 1.4ghz though. What heatsink are you using?
Ambient temp also affects the cpu temp so if you live in a cooler
climate then that will have an effect too.

Well, it's a couple of homemade ones actually, used the biggest HS I
could find that would fit and then attached 2 fans, taken from 2
GlobalWin FOP32's

The HS was "lapped", not the CPU though, and I used a good quality heat
compound when I assembled it, it's usually running a couple of degrees
cooler now than it was with just a FOP32 HS/Fan

Well, I keep hearing about people running their AMD's cool, wonder if
it's a difference in the way the temp is measured, I'm using the latest
version of ASUS Probe, and I checked my main PC the other night before I
packed it away, moving house, and it was running at 66 C, that's under
100% CPU load of course and it's fairly hot over here these days, I'd
say that during more normal temps in my study I'd see 61-62 degrees

This particular CPU is an 1100/100, "unlocked" and running at 1333/133
at the time

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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"A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke"
--Groucho Marx--

I've spoken to other people about the Iwill board who run direct
probes on the CPU (like compunurse) to get an accurate temp, and I
believe the difference to be as much as 10deg, so mine would then be
at 45deg stock speed, 53deg at 1.4ghz (all under 100% load). But that
all depends on how your probe works. Maybe add 5 deg or so for one
which touches the base of the CPU?

And of course, it depends on ambient temps. Mine runs at between 18
and 21 deg. I'm using a Taisol hsf which is fairly big, fan runs at
5000 rpm which is not too loud :)

Do you have a photo or anything of your homemade cooler? I've always
thought that it wouldn't be too tough to do better than the usual,
overpriced ones that are available.

Rafe Mc

Still much lower than mine

URL ? :-)

Well.....I used a HS from EKL (or something, I looked through our
shelves and grabbed the biggest one I could find) rated to 1.2Ghz,
initially I wanted to run it stock as it has a fairly large and quiet
fan, but then, as usual, I wanted to see how far I could push it :-)

So I used the fans from a pair of GlobalWin HS/Fans I had from when I
was OC'in my dual Celeron machine, and hey presto....:-)

Ni pics I'm afraid and the web site I usually order this from to our
shop is down right now, I could give you the general URL, but since it's
in Norwegian I don't think you'd find your way around the place :-)

Is it much better than the stock GlobalWin stuff, not really, I just got
it bad back then and wanted MORE !!!, and got it :-), at least in the
way of temps, couldn't push it any further though, I suspect you'd have
to get the temps much lower to find more speed, I have a Peltier kit
lying around here, but I need to make some special clips to fit it under
my HS and I just don't have the energy right now

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com
http://www.teammirage.com

"A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke"
--Groucho Marx--

http://www.taisol.com/products/pdf/cgk742002.pdf

BTW, thats just the type of clip, the hsf is different to that one.