rec.autos.simulators

OT: AMD processors: sempron or athlon xp

John Smit

OT: AMD processors: sempron or athlon xp

by John Smit » Fri, 07 Oct 2005 07:17:26

Which is faster a 2800+ sempron or a 2800 - 333 athlon xp? Either one will
work in my motherboard (hopefully). Also which one runs cooler? I thought I
read that AMD's mobile processors can be used in a desktop too(socket 462),
anyone try this?
Tim Yuhas

OT: AMD processors: sempron or athlon xp

by Tim Yuhas » Sat, 08 Oct 2005 02:15:38

If you get the socket 754 sempron it is actually
a 64 bit with the onboard memory controller
the 64 bit is disabled but the memory controller
is not.It only runs at 1.6,so get a board that overclocks
and it should beat the pants off an xp chip.
The sempron will run cooler as well.

Tim


Malc

OT: AMD processors: sempron or athlon xp

by Malc » Sat, 08 Oct 2005 03:23:39


To compliment Tim's reply, for Socket A the Althon is faster for a given
'rating' (2800 etc), I believe the sepron rating is equivalent to
duron/celery clock speed rather than Athlon/P3.

Check the cache & actual clock speed, you may find a good sempron cheaper
than a similar spec (but different rating) Athlon for less money. You get
what you pay for at the end of the day ;-)

Malc.

Mario Petrinovic

OT: AMD processors: sempron or athlon xp

by Mario Petrinovic » Sat, 08 Oct 2005 06:13:27

Malc:

        I believe this site has the best info about computers:
www23.tomshardware.com/index.html
        I came from work, so I am too tired to go through this list, but the
problem is in cache. I think sempron has 256kb, and athlon xp has 512. 2800+
sempron is the same as 2400+ athlon xp, in speed. -- Mario

DJRJ

OT: AMD processors: sempron or athlon xp

by DJRJ » Sat, 08 Oct 2005 10:25:38


I noticed the cache size was smaller on the sempron. I did find that the
clock speed isn't locked on the mobile sempron, however they are getting
harder to find and more expensive. I was hoping to just do a chip upgrade
instead of mobo v/card and ram.. The mobile sempron 2800 is easily oced at
2.4gig according to a lot of posts on newegg..

Mario Petrinovic

OT: AMD processors: sempron or athlon xp

by Mario Petrinovic » Sat, 08 Oct 2005 17:36:10

DJRJR:

        I don't know about that mobile sempron. Cache is tight passage. If
that mobile sempron has 256kb, I don't know how you can widen that passage.
This is how they efficiently downgrade a processor, even if you oc it. But,
I am not some big expert. Maybe it is OK. But, there is a sempron with
bigger cache. It is 3000+ or 3200+ (I am not sure), and I think it is as
much fast. Try to find if you can put that sempron onto your MB.
        BTW, AMD stretched 3000+ speed number (I don't know about 2800+).
3000+ is only some 10% faster than 2400+. But this 10% is really what you
need, if you have 2400+. I upgraded from Athlon XP 2400+ (Thoroughbred) to
Athlon XP 3000+ (Barton, I hardly found it), and it is very much worth it. I
also only looked for a chip upgrade. -- Mario

Greg Campbel

OT: AMD processors: sempron or athlon xp

by Greg Campbel » Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:21:56


> Which is faster a 2800+ sempron or a 2800 - 333 athlon xp? Either one will
> work in my motherboard (hopefully). Also which one runs cooler? I thought I
> read that AMD's mobile processors can be used in a desktop too(socket 462),
> anyone try this?

I'm on the verge of getting one of the mobile Barton critters.
Most, but not all, motherboards can accomdate the chip.  OC to ~2.4 gig
with moderate voltages is common.

You may find information specific to your board at:
http://forums.pcper.com/forumdisplay.php?f=21

Specific tricks to enable the higher multipliers at:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=279392
http://forums.pcper.com/forumdisplay.php?f=21

-Greg


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