rec.autos.simulators

> Hi,

> i'm in my 3 monthly period of driving GPL like a madman...
> Now i recently switched to cable...coming from a lowly 28k8.
> Now the pings to several servers are extrrrrrremly good...under 100ms
> and no loss.
> However...i have yet to finsish a race...all the ones i was in kicked
> me out after xx laps with 'unacceptable thruput'
> I allmost never had this when i was still on my modem...maybe 1 out of
> 20 races it happened...now with cable it's all the time...
> SO is there a catch to GPL and cable modems?...and is there anything i
> can do to improve things?

> Cheers,
> Willem

> ps..if this arrives double blame my excellent news server...urgh

>Your not the only one, I too have a disco problem with GPL while using
>my cable modem. Any other game online is flawless, it's weird.
> There are some servers for gpl that are totally perfect and I have
>never discoed ,warped or have had clock smashes with them. I just wish
>there was more of them. This is the main reason why I'm not racing gpl
>as much as I used to, it does get frustrating, especially if your in a
>league.
>Just check your hops/Route to the game server, some times you'll notice
>a bad hop that keeps timing out and that could cause a disco. Maybe the
>only thing you can do is report the bad hops to your ISP and maybe they
>will take some action on the hop to get it shut down or force the
>organization to fix it. When I hook up to any UK server I find there is
>a bunch of Servers in New York City area run by the same company that is
>just Horrible and it shuts me down every time. Maybe if people start
>complaining about some of the sub par servers out there the internet
>would be much better. You may get a 80ms ping but that's useless if only
>5 of 10 packets make it.
>But gpl does seem to be sensitive to cable modem's and packet loss.
>One Big bad Apple can ruin the whole bunch. ;)

>problem going out west but it's usually hopless<g> going east.

>Good Luck.

>> Hi,

>> i'm in my 3 monthly period of driving GPL like a madman...
>> Now i recently switched to cable...coming from a lowly 28k8.
>> Now the pings to several servers are extrrrrrremly good...under 100ms
>> and no loss.
>> However...i have yet to finsish a race...all the ones i was in kicked
>> me out after xx laps with 'unacceptable thruput'
>> I allmost never had this when i was still on my modem...maybe 1 out of
>> 20 races it happened...now with cable it's all the time...
>> SO is there a catch to GPL and cable modems?...and is there anything i
>> can do to improve things?

>> Cheers,
>> Willem

>> ps..if this arrives double blame my excellent news server...urgh

> I dont know what brand of cable modem you have now, but beg your cable
> provider for a different one. I went from a lan city (always dropped from
> races) to a surfboard (never get tossed unless the host goes down).
> seriously like night and day, the whole time i thought it had to be my
cable
> provider, but it was the modem droppin packets the whole time.

> >Your not the only one, I too have a disco problem with GPL while using
> >my cable modem. Any other game online is flawless, it's weird.
> > There are some servers for gpl that are totally perfect and I have
> >never discoed ,warped or have had clock smashes with them. I just wish
> >there was more of them. This is the main reason why I'm not racing gpl
> >as much as I used to, it does get frustrating, especially if your in a
> >league.
> >Just check your hops/Route to the game server, some times you'll notice
> >a bad hop that keeps timing out and that could cause a disco. Maybe the
> >only thing you can do is report the bad hops to your ISP and maybe they
> >will take some action on the hop to get it shut down or force the
> >organization to fix it. When I hook up to any UK server I find there is
> >a bunch of Servers in New York City area run by the same company that is
> >just Horrible and it shuts me down every time. Maybe if people start
> >complaining about some of the sub par servers out there the internet
> >would be much better. You may get a 80ms ping but that's useless if only
> >5 of 10 packets make it.
> >But gpl does seem to be sensitive to cable modem's and packet loss.
> >One Big bad Apple can ruin the whole bunch. ;)

> >problem going out west but it's usually hopless<g> going east.

> >Good Luck.

> >> Hi,

> >> i'm in my 3 monthly period of driving GPL like a madman...
> >> Now i recently switched to cable...coming from a lowly 28k8.
> >> Now the pings to several servers are extrrrrrremly good...under 100ms
> >> and no loss.
> >> However...i have yet to finsish a race...all the ones i was in kicked
> >> me out after xx laps with 'unacceptable thruput'
> >> I allmost never had this when i was still on my modem...maybe 1 out of
> >> 20 races it happened...now with cable it's all the time...
> >> SO is there a catch to GPL and cable modems?...and is there anything i
> >> can do to improve things?

> >> Cheers,
> >> Willem

> >> ps..if this arrives double blame my excellent news server...urgh

> I dont know what brand of cable modem you have now, but beg your cable
> provider for a different one. I went from a lan city (always dropped from
> races) to a surfboard (never get tossed unless the host goes down).
> seriously like night and day, the whole time i thought it had to be my cable
> provider, but it was the modem droppin packets the whole time.

> >Your not the only one, I too have a disco problem with GPL while using
> >my cable modem. Any other game online is flawless, it's weird.
> > There are some servers for gpl that are totally perfect and I have
> >never discoed ,warped or have had clock smashes with them. I just wish
> >there was more of them. This is the main reason why I'm not racing gpl
> >as much as I used to, it does get frustrating, especially if your in a
> >league.
> >Just check your hops/Route to the game server, some times you'll notice
> >a bad hop that keeps timing out and that could cause a disco. Maybe the
> >only thing you can do is report the bad hops to your ISP and maybe they
> >will take some action on the hop to get it shut down or force the
> >organization to fix it. When I hook up to any UK server I find there is
> >a bunch of Servers in New York City area run by the same company that is
> >just Horrible and it shuts me down every time. Maybe if people start
> >complaining about some of the sub par servers out there the internet
> >would be much better. You may get a 80ms ping but that's useless if only
> >5 of 10 packets make it.
> >But gpl does seem to be sensitive to cable modem's and packet loss.
> >One Big bad Apple can ruin the whole bunch. ;)

> >problem going out west but it's usually hopless<g> going east.

> >Good Luck.

> >> Hi,

> >> i'm in my 3 monthly period of driving GPL like a madman...
> >> Now i recently switched to cable...coming from a lowly 28k8.
> >> Now the pings to several servers are extrrrrrremly good...under 100ms
> >> and no loss.
> >> However...i have yet to finsish a race...all the ones i was in kicked
> >> me out after xx laps with 'unacceptable thruput'
> >> I allmost never had this when i was still on my modem...maybe 1 out of
> >> 20 races it happened...now with cable it's all the time...
> >> SO is there a catch to GPL and cable modems?...and is there anything i
> >> can do to improve things?

> >> Cheers,
> >> Willem

> >> ps..if this arrives double blame my excellent news server...urgh

>Thanks I'll look into it.

>> I dont know what brand of cable modem you have now, but beg your cable
>> provider for a different one. I went from a lan city (always dropped from
>> races) to a surfboard (never get tossed unless the host goes down).
>> seriously like night and day, the whole time i thought it had to be my
cable
>> provider, but it was the modem droppin packets the whole time.

>> >Your not the only one, I too have a disco problem with GPL while using
>> >my cable modem. Any other game online is flawless, it's weird.
>> > There are some servers for gpl that are totally perfect and I have
>> >never discoed ,warped or have had clock smashes with them. I just wish
>> >there was more of them. This is the main reason why I'm not racing gpl
>> >as much as I used to, it does get frustrating, especially if your in a
>> >league.
>> >Just check your hops/Route to the game server, some times you'll notice
>> >a bad hop that keeps timing out and that could cause a disco. Maybe the
>> >only thing you can do is report the bad hops to your ISP and maybe they
>> >will take some action on the hop to get it shut down or force the
>> >organization to fix it. When I hook up to any UK server I find there is
>> >a bunch of Servers in New York City area run by the same company that is
>> >just Horrible and it shuts me down every time. Maybe if people start
>> >complaining about some of the sub par servers out there the internet
>> >would be much better. You may get a 80ms ping but that's useless if only
>> >5 of 10 packets make it.
>> >But gpl does seem to be sensitive to cable modem's and packet loss.
>> >One Big bad Apple can ruin the whole bunch. ;)

>> >problem going out west but it's usually hopless<g> going east.

>> >Good Luck.

>> >> Hi,

>> >> i'm in my 3 monthly period of driving GPL like a madman...
>> >> Now i recently switched to cable...coming from a lowly 28k8.
>> >> Now the pings to several servers are extrrrrrremly good...under 100ms
>> >> and no loss.
>> >> However...i have yet to finsish a race...all the ones i was in kicked
>> >> me out after xx laps with 'unacceptable thruput'
>> >> I allmost never had this when i was still on my modem...maybe 1 out of
>> >> 20 races it happened...now with cable it's all the time...
>> >> SO is there a catch to GPL and cable modems?...and is there anything i
>> >> can do to improve things?

>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Willem

>> >> ps..if this arrives double blame my excellent news server...urgh

> So is there a catch to GPL and cable modems?...and
> is there anything i can do to improve things?

>btw its a General Instruments Surf-Board External SB3100 cable modem. Im
>told it can handle fluctuations of your connection much better than some
>other cable modems.
>>> I dont know what brand of cable modem you have now, but beg your cable
>>> provider for a different one. I went from a lan city (always dropped from
>>> races) to a surfboard (never get tossed unless the host goes down).
>>> seriously like night and day, the whole time i thought it had to be my
>>>cable provider, but it was the modem droppin packets the whole time.

>Hi,

>Mine is a com21 comport 1000 cable modem.
>I have no idea if this is a good or a 'bad' modem.
>All i know is that asking my provider for a different modem will
>result in the general responce 'up yours'.
>This ISP has a monopoly and their customer service is widely know as
>non exsistant...
>Those who've watched the GP might have seen it on the new arrows
>car...
>The 'chello broadband' advertising on it....that's my provider...and
>really they should have taken that advertising money and put it into
>improving their network instead....sigh
>I'd like to hear people's experiences with this modem cause i'm pretty
>sure a lot of dutchies might be using this provider and this cable
>modem...

>Cheers,
>Willem

>> So is there a catch to GPL and cable modems?...and
>> is there anything i can do to improve things?

>I recently ditched my Motorola cable modem in favor
>of an ADSL connection for exactly the same reason - I
>couldn't stay connected to servers.

>The first thing I noticed when tracing routes to
>servers is the that the ADSL guys seem to have their
>networks sorted out far better than the cable modem
>companies. For me, there is at least 7 hops to any

>connection it is three to any backbone. Also ping
>times within the ADSL network are in the ***s, within
>the cable modem network they sometimes varied widely

>The second thing I noticed is that the ADSL
>connection offers far better upstream bandwidth.
>I never got over 8 Kbytes/s with the cable modem
>(only slightly better than a 56k modem), with the
>ADSL connection I routinely see 24 Kbytes/s.

>block incoming connection.  Not a problem with
>ADSL though.

>Additionaly, ADSL in my case offers better
>downstream bandwidth. This came as a bit of a
>surprise, but I routinely see 2 - 3 times more
>throughput.

>So far I haven't suffered a single disco racing GPL
>online, nor have I had any network outages -

>least three times a week for the entire four months
>I was a subscriber.

>As always your mileage may vary,

> - George

>  I'd blame your situation on your cable co.

>>> So is there a catch to GPL and cable modems?...and
>>> is there anything i can do to improve things?

> Willem, I have the same modem, and allmost never have problems during
> online races. Only two times that I can remember, because both times
> it was during a league race :(((

> I don't know much about cable modems, but I went to
> http://www.speedguide.net/Cable_modems/index.shtml
> and did some of the registry tweaks. I haven't had a single problem
> since then, but I did this only a week ago, so I didn't have enough
> testing time to be sure yet.

> I don't get this Chello thing by the way. My provider was Gelrevision,
> which has been taken over by UPS, and lately I recieved a letter that
> I will be migrated to Chello.

> Oh well, even with the problems I had, the connection is mostly very
> good, and before I had my cable connection I had phone bills of around
> 600-700 Guilders, so I'm still very pleased with my cable connection
> :)

> Andre

> >Hi,

> >Mine is a com21 comport 1000 cable modem.
> >I have no idea if this is a good or a 'bad' modem.
> >All i know is that asking my provider for a different modem will
> >result in the general responce 'up yours'.
> >This ISP has a monopoly and their customer service is widely know as
> >non exsistant...
> >Those who've watched the GP might have seen it on the new arrows
> >car...
> >The 'chello broadband' advertising on it....that's my provider...and
> >really they should have taken that advertising money and put it into
> >improving their network instead....sigh
> >I'd like to hear people's experiences with this modem cause i'm pretty
> >sure a lot of dutchies might be using this provider and this cable
> >modem...

> >Cheers,
> >Willem

> > So is there a catch to GPL and cable modems?...and
> > is there anything i can do to improve things?

> I recently ditched my Motorola cable modem in favor
> of an ADSL connection for exactly the same reason - I
> couldn't stay connected to servers.

> The first thing I noticed when tracing routes to
> servers is the that the ADSL guys seem to have their
> networks sorted out far better than the cable modem
> companies. For me, there is at least 7 hops to any

> connection it is three to any backbone. Also ping
> times within the ADSL network are in the ***s, within
> the cable modem network they sometimes varied widely

> The second thing I noticed is that the ADSL
> connection offers far better upstream bandwidth.
> I never got over 8 Kbytes/s with the cable modem
> (only slightly better than a 56k modem), with the
> ADSL connection I routinely see 24 Kbytes/s.

> block incoming connection.  Not a problem with
> ADSL though.

> Additionaly, ADSL in my case offers better
> downstream bandwidth. This came as a bit of a
> surprise, but I routinely see 2 - 3 times more
> throughput.

> So far I haven't suffered a single disco racing GPL
> online, nor have I had any network outages -

> least three times a week for the entire four months
> I was a subscriber.

> As always your mileage may vary,

>  - George