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Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

RocketMa

Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

by RocketMa » Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:01:30

  I purchased a new Microsoft USB FF Wheel last week, but since installing
the accompanying version 4 of the Sidewinder software have been unable to
access the Control Panel / Game Controllers to set up the wheel.
  The Sidewinder software seems to install without a problem, but when I try
to run Control Panel through the software or through Control Panel / Game
Controllers the program starts, but almost instantly crashes without opening
the window and outputs a sound (as it crashes). The following message was
output the first time I tried to access Game Controllers.

SWTRAYV4 has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.

SWTRAYV4 caused an invalid page fault in
module HID.DLL at 017f:7d06170d.
Registers:
EAX=00000068 CS=017f EIP=7d06170d EFLGS=00010202
EBX=00000068 SS=0187 ESP=0063f214 EBP=0063f264
ECX=00410670 DS=0187 ESI=00000066 FS=0f0f
EDX=0041047c ES=0187 EDI=0041300c GS=3656
Bytes at CS:EIP:
f6 47 20 04 74 06 66 ff 42 3a eb 04 66 ff 42 3c
Stack dump:
00510a50 004103f0 00000000 700109d5 00410670 0041047c 00000000 0063f29c
004102d0 7000274c 004103ec 00000000 70002823 004103f0 0000000c 0034045e

  I have version 3.02 of Sidewinder already on my system for my gameport FF
wheel, and USB joystick and USB gamepad. Although the new version is not
supposed to affect the old version I tried to un-install the old version 3
from my system. I was unable to complete un-installation as the following
message occurred.

UNINSTAL caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0084:00000009.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00000009 EFLGS=00010286
EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0160eda0 EBP=0160eee8
ECX=01c2f04c DS=0187 ESI=100972a8 FS=0f0f
EDX=01b3003c ES=0187 EDI=10097380 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
00 a0 07 65 04 70 00 65 04 70 00 54 ff 00 f0 8c
Stack dump:
00000187 5f3e19bf 00000000 00000000 bff77848 bff55585 5f3e19fa 10097380
00000000 00000000 10093280 10097380 00000000 10090000 10207828 bff77848

  I thought I might try another copy of the latest version 4 Sidewinder
software but I have been unable to find a copy to download. My system specs
are:- DELL PII 450, 384MB RAM, 2 x 14.4 GB HDs, nVidia Geforce2MX (64MB),
Voodoo II (12MB), Windows 98 (not SE), DirectX 8.0a.
  Any help/advice would be much appreciated. TIA.

--

     Rob.
  My address is MUNGED!!
  Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks.

Leif Holmlun

Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

by Leif Holmlun » Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:55:30

J got the same problem but can't find out what's wrong, purchased the wheel
yesterday.
I've searched the MS K. .Base but found nothing...
Have you solved the problem... I need help on this one..

/Leif



SHS

Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

by SHS » Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:56:03

You need Win98SE being Win98FE suck with must of USB device out there
The Other Larr

Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

by The Other Larr » Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:37:26

Personally, I have had ZERO problems with Windows 98 First Edition, and in
fact avoid Win98SE like the plague due to the engineering problems within it
that MS has never, and probably never will, fix.

Win98FE, with all the appropriate patches, has always been the most stable
version of Win9x I've ever used.

I HATE supporting Win98SE on a large scale (which, unfortunately, I have to
do).

JMHO

-Larry


The Other Larr

Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

by The Other Larr » Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:35:44

That would be the System Tray extension.  I would look for some sort of
conflict.

You didn't mention your OS version...

-Larry


SHS

Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

by SHS » Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:12:01

Hmm that funny Win98 had more engineering problems that why Win98SE come out in the first place

Lucky you it major headack for me in fact so was WinME hehe.

RocketMa

Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

by RocketMa » Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:08:31

  Ah, yes I did mention my OS - Win 98 FE (not SE).
  What sort of conflict, Larry? Where should I be looking? Device Manager??
  I didn't notice any conflict in Device Manager when I had a quick glance.
  Thanks for the reply.

--

     Rob.
  My address is MUNGED!!
  Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks.


> That would be the System Tray extension.  I would look for some sort of
> conflict.

> You didn't mention your OS version...

> -Larry



> >   I purchased a new Microsoft USB FF Wheel last week, but since
installing
> > the accompanying version 4 of the Sidewinder software have been unable
to
> > access the Control Panel / Game Controllers to set up the wheel.
> >   The Sidewinder software seems to install without a problem, but when I
> try
> > to run Control Panel through the software or through Control Panel /
Game
> > Controllers the program starts, but almost instantly crashes without
> opening
> > the window and outputs a sound (as it crashes). The following message
was
> > output the first time I tried to access Game Controllers.

> > SWTRAYV4 has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.

> > SWTRAYV4 caused an invalid page fault in
> > module HID.DLL at 017f:7d06170d.
> > Registers:
> > EAX=00000068 CS=017f EIP=7d06170d EFLGS=00010202
> > EBX=00000068 SS=0187 ESP=0063f214 EBP=0063f264
> > ECX=00410670 DS=0187 ESI=00000066 FS=0f0f
> > EDX=0041047c ES=0187 EDI=0041300c GS=3656
> > Bytes at CS:EIP:
> > f6 47 20 04 74 06 66 ff 42 3a eb 04 66 ff 42 3c
> > Stack dump:
> > 00510a50 004103f0 00000000 700109d5 00410670 0041047c 00000000 0063f29c
> > 004102d0 7000274c 004103ec 00000000 70002823 004103f0 0000000c 0034045e

> >   I have version 3.02 of Sidewinder already on my system for my gameport
> FF
> > wheel, and USB joystick and USB gamepad. Although the new version is not
> > supposed to affect the old version I tried to un-install the old version
3
> > from my system. I was unable to complete un-installation as the
following
> > message occurred.

> > UNINSTAL caused an invalid page fault in
> > module <unknown> at 0084:00000009.
> > Registers:
> > EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00000009 EFLGS=00010286
> > EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0160eda0 EBP=0160eee8
> > ECX=01c2f04c DS=0187 ESI=100972a8 FS=0f0f
> > EDX=01b3003c ES=0187 EDI=10097380 GS=0000
> > Bytes at CS:EIP:
> > 00 a0 07 65 04 70 00 65 04 70 00 54 ff 00 f0 8c
> > Stack dump:
> > 00000187 5f3e19bf 00000000 00000000 bff77848 bff55585 5f3e19fa 10097380
> > 00000000 00000000 10093280 10097380 00000000 10090000 10207828 bff77848

> >   I thought I might try another copy of the latest version 4 Sidewinder
> > software but I have been unable to find a copy to download. My system
> specs
> > are:- DELL PII 450, 384MB RAM, 2 x 14.4 GB HDs, nVidia Geforce2MX
(64MB),
> > Voodoo II (12MB), Windows 98 (not SE), DirectX 8.0a.
> >   Any help/advice would be much appreciated. TIA.

> > --

> >      Rob.
> >   My address is MUNGED!!
> >   Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks.

Leif Holmlun

Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

by Leif Holmlun » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 04:09:46

My OS - Win 98 FE, all uppdates...
P2 450, Matrox g400 32 m, Sb-live, 256 ram, 8 GB HD... dx 8.1
It will work without the software, but there'll be no FF then :( ..
I tried it, unistalled all software... and just plugged it in...the system
whants win98 cd
for some usb files..... then checked it out in thrustm. propanel.. important
to ..give it ID 1.
Then I drove some laps of GPL ... but there's no ff ...
It seems like there is some problem working with Joy.cpl to.... ??
Until there is a solution for the bug or problem (Microsoft?) it's better
then nothing...
Seems like it won't work with XP either... or???
getting my new PC thirsday ... P4 1.7 ... Win XP .. etc..

/Leif



>   Ah, yes I did mention my OS - Win 98 FE (not SE).
>   What sort of conflict, Larry? Where should I be looking? Device
Manager??
>   I didn't notice any conflict in Device Manager when I had a quick
glance.
>   Thanks for the reply.

> --

>      Rob.
>   My address is MUNGED!!
>   Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks.


> > That would be the System Tray extension.  I would look for some sort of
> > conflict.

> > You didn't mention your OS version...

> > -Larry



> > >   I purchased a new Microsoft USB FF Wheel last week, but since
> installing
> > > the accompanying version 4 of the Sidewinder software have been unable
> to
> > > access the Control Panel / Game Controllers to set up the wheel.
> > >   The Sidewinder software seems to install without a problem, but when
I
> > try
> > > to run Control Panel through the software or through Control Panel /
> Game
> > > Controllers the program starts, but almost instantly crashes without
> > opening
> > > the window and outputs a sound (as it crashes). The following message
> was
> > > output the first time I tried to access Game Controllers.

> > > SWTRAYV4 has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.

> > > SWTRAYV4 caused an invalid page fault in
> > > module HID.DLL at 017f:7d06170d.
> > > Registers:
> > > EAX=00000068 CS=017f EIP=7d06170d EFLGS=00010202
> > > EBX=00000068 SS=0187 ESP=0063f214 EBP=0063f264
> > > ECX=00410670 DS=0187 ESI=00000066 FS=0f0f
> > > EDX=0041047c ES=0187 EDI=0041300c GS=3656
> > > Bytes at CS:EIP:
> > > f6 47 20 04 74 06 66 ff 42 3a eb 04 66 ff 42 3c
> > > Stack dump:
> > > 00510a50 004103f0 00000000 700109d5 00410670 0041047c 00000000
0063f29c
> > > 004102d0 7000274c 004103ec 00000000 70002823 004103f0 0000000c
0034045e

> > >   I have version 3.02 of Sidewinder already on my system for my
gameport
> > FF
> > > wheel, and USB joystick and USB gamepad. Although the new version is
not
> > > supposed to affect the old version I tried to un-install the old
version
> 3
> > > from my system. I was unable to complete un-installation as the
> following
> > > message occurred.

> > > UNINSTAL caused an invalid page fault in
> > > module <unknown> at 0084:00000009.
> > > Registers:
> > > EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00000009 EFLGS=00010286
> > > EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0160eda0 EBP=0160eee8
> > > ECX=01c2f04c DS=0187 ESI=100972a8 FS=0f0f
> > > EDX=01b3003c ES=0187 EDI=10097380 GS=0000
> > > Bytes at CS:EIP:
> > > 00 a0 07 65 04 70 00 65 04 70 00 54 ff 00 f0 8c
> > > Stack dump:
> > > 00000187 5f3e19bf 00000000 00000000 bff77848 bff55585 5f3e19fa
10097380
> > > 00000000 00000000 10093280 10097380 00000000 10090000 10207828
bff77848

> > >   I thought I might try another copy of the latest version 4
Sidewinder
> > > software but I have been unable to find a copy to download. My system
> > specs
> > > are:- DELL PII 450, 384MB RAM, 2 x 14.4 GB HDs, nVidia Geforce2MX
> (64MB),
> > > Voodoo II (12MB), Windows 98 (not SE), DirectX 8.0a.
> > >   Any help/advice would be much appreciated. TIA.

> > > --

> > >      Rob.
> > >   My address is MUNGED!!
> > >   Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks.

The Other Larr

Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

by The Other Larr » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:13:43

I think most of us would agree that WinME is the OS that should have never
been.  Absolutely DREADFUL stuff.

-Larry


out in the first place

The Other Larr

Sidewinder 4.0 software problems (USB FF Wheel)

by The Other Larr » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:14:53

No, no...  Software Conflict.

It sounds like something is conflicting with your SideWinder
extensions/control panel.

I'd first see if there is any other controller software installed, and try
uninstalling it first.

-Larry


>   Ah, yes I did mention my OS - Win 98 FE (not SE).
>   What sort of conflict, Larry? Where should I be looking? Device
Manager??
>   I didn't notice any conflict in Device Manager when I had a quick
glance.
>   Thanks for the reply.

> --

>      Rob.
>   My address is MUNGED!!
>   Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks.


> > That would be the System Tray extension.  I would look for some sort of
> > conflict.

> > You didn't mention your OS version...

> > -Larry



> > >   I purchased a new Microsoft USB FF Wheel last week, but since
> installing
> > > the accompanying version 4 of the Sidewinder software have been unable
> to
> > > access the Control Panel / Game Controllers to set up the wheel.
> > >   The Sidewinder software seems to install without a problem, but when
I
> > try
> > > to run Control Panel through the software or through Control Panel /
> Game
> > > Controllers the program starts, but almost instantly crashes without
> > opening
> > > the window and outputs a sound (as it crashes). The following message
> was
> > > output the first time I tried to access Game Controllers.

> > > SWTRAYV4 has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.

> > > SWTRAYV4 caused an invalid page fault in
> > > module HID.DLL at 017f:7d06170d.
> > > Registers:
> > > EAX=00000068 CS=017f EIP=7d06170d EFLGS=00010202
> > > EBX=00000068 SS=0187 ESP=0063f214 EBP=0063f264
> > > ECX=00410670 DS=0187 ESI=00000066 FS=0f0f
> > > EDX=0041047c ES=0187 EDI=0041300c GS=3656
> > > Bytes at CS:EIP:
> > > f6 47 20 04 74 06 66 ff 42 3a eb 04 66 ff 42 3c
> > > Stack dump:
> > > 00510a50 004103f0 00000000 700109d5 00410670 0041047c 00000000
0063f29c
> > > 004102d0 7000274c 004103ec 00000000 70002823 004103f0 0000000c
0034045e

> > >   I have version 3.02 of Sidewinder already on my system for my
gameport
> > FF
> > > wheel, and USB joystick and USB gamepad. Although the new version is
not
> > > supposed to affect the old version I tried to un-install the old
version
> 3
> > > from my system. I was unable to complete un-installation as the
> following
> > > message occurred.

> > > UNINSTAL caused an invalid page fault in
> > > module <unknown> at 0084:00000009.
> > > Registers:
> > > EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=00000009 EFLGS=00010286
> > > EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=0160eda0 EBP=0160eee8
> > > ECX=01c2f04c DS=0187 ESI=100972a8 FS=0f0f
> > > EDX=01b3003c ES=0187 EDI=10097380 GS=0000
> > > Bytes at CS:EIP:
> > > 00 a0 07 65 04 70 00 65 04 70 00 54 ff 00 f0 8c
> > > Stack dump:
> > > 00000187 5f3e19bf 00000000 00000000 bff77848 bff55585 5f3e19fa
10097380
> > > 00000000 00000000 10093280 10097380 00000000 10090000 10207828
bff77848

> > >   I thought I might try another copy of the latest version 4
Sidewinder
> > > software but I have been unable to find a copy to download. My system
> > specs
> > > are:- DELL PII 450, 384MB RAM, 2 x 14.4 GB HDs, nVidia Geforce2MX
> (64MB),
> > > Voodoo II (12MB), Windows 98 (not SE), DirectX 8.0a.
> > >   Any help/advice would be much appreciated. TIA.

> > > --

> > >      Rob.
> > >   My address is MUNGED!!
> > >   Remove the obvious if replying by email. Thanks.


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