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Also, what times have you been seeing with this setup? I tried this track
for the first time today. Started out with a 2:07, and finished with a 2:01.
I don't have a reference for what a good time would be though.

David G Fisher

David G Fisher

I like this setup ok.  I think this track will be pretty tough no matter the
setup.  Has to be the bumpiest Papy track Ive seen.  After running ETCC
Bathurts ;) she's smooth as a que ball though <g>.

I just ran some laps at Symmons Plains from our buddy Steve Whitty.  Great
track, maybe we should run it after this weeks main event?  Get it at the
Pits.

Mitch

Mitch

Best time I have got so far is about a 2:02.5.  I figure someone will
be below 2:00 come Sat.

I like the setup ok.  Like all the rest of the setups, better to brake
early than late... can spin around real easy.  There are a couple of
sections that I am struggling with were if you don't hit it just right
you can loop it... hopefully I will have it figured out by Sat.  On
the plus side, the sections were you can go off track there is
pavement and the wall is a ways away so if you lose it, it doesn't
necessarily mean you will wreck your car.

Brian Oster

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:53:01 -0500, "David G Fisher"

Pretty much the same as Sarthe... it's a landyacht. No steering authority
whatsoever. I don't get this: these are GTs for crying out loud, why do
people set them up to wallow all over the place? -It jacks down so badly on
the soft springs it still skips on the bumps, so what's the use of running
it *this* soft?

Track is also really underdetailed, IMO. Hard to have any real sense of
position / trajectory.

However, I can't test again and provide an alternative until Friday night my
time, so go with it. I'll try to work up some enthousiasm to be in the race.

I started out 2m20s and got down to 2m10.8s... major communication problem
between me and that Vette, I tell ya.

Jan.
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FWIW, I had the same response initially with the leblanc70 setup, but if I
just backed off the steering ratio to 18:1, it was much easier to drive.
Really settled the car down.  Got to 2:06 in my first five laps, even though
I'm still looking for the EA version's corners and am a long way from
learning this version.

In fact, that's something I do with most all of the PTA setups, since my LWF
wheel only goes to 220 degrees.  Remember; if someone develops a setup using
a 270 degree wheel, the steering response at say, 15:1 for someone using a
220 degree wheel will feel like it would've to the setup developer at 12:1.
So to get the same response as the 270 degree wheel I'd have to run 18.4:1.
Thus my usual choice of 18 to 20.  As fixed setup races don't allow you to
modify the ratio, you guys may want to consider how the ratio may affect
different drivers due to their at-home equipment and add a couple of clicks
for good measure.  Anyone who wants can then just short calibrate their
wheel for the event.

SB

In 20 minutes of practice, I had FIVE crashes to the desktop.

This is the only track that does it (so far).

-Larry

Brian Oster

Achim

I've done a couple of 1:58's with it at 70o Clear with half a tank of
fuel on board... so if anyone wants to try... ;)

Achim

I'm absolutely positive this is a better setup. Better through the turns
(less understeer), better under braking, easier to drive, and also faster.
You can push harder and throw the car around more than you can with the
leblanc setup. I managed a 159.5, which was an immeditate drop of 1.5
seconds off my my best time with the other.

I also noticed the tire wear seems less, and the temps aren't an issue.

RASCAR drivers should try out the setup and then post your thoughts to this
thread as soon as possible.

Get the setup here. http://users.skynet.be/AchimT/start.html

Thanks Joachim!

David G Fisher

BTW, I'm going to take some motion sickness pills before I race on Sat. This
track is bumpy enough that I start feeling a little lightheaded after 10
laps or so. :-p

Achim

Achim

Mitch