now.
Here it is Thursday, and I STILL don't know what damned setup we are
running!
-Larry
Here it is Thursday, and I STILL don't know what damned setup we are
running!
-Larry
Setup_Sebring_Stable.zip
Setup_Sebring_Alien.zip
Everyone's happy :)
-Larry
> > Practiced about 2 hrs last nite w/ Eric's setup (leblanc70), & went from
> > 2:10 to 2:02, & a best of 2:01.7... thought that was pretty good. Then
> > read this thread & saw that Achim had made a setup for Sebring, & was
> > turning 1:56. Oh well ;o(
> > Time to d/l a new setup. Dave says it's pretty good, & he liked the RA
> > setup, too.
> > This just shows how different driving styles like different setups,
'cause
> > while I could go faster w/ Achim's setup (2:00.395), it was less stable
&
> > forgiving (for me). Overall, I am slower w/ this one than w/ the
original,
> > & that surprised me, because I really *liked* his setup ("fast") for RA,
&
> > most didn't.
> > Funny thing was, after being frustrated for over an hr, I tried the
original
> > (leblanc70) setup again, & within 3 laps did a 1:59.9 *only* ~3 sec off
> > Achim's pace, & ~.5 off Dave's.
> > That said, if others think it's better & we go w/Achim's, I can live
with
> > it.
> :)
> The feedback I got for my Cup car RC setups (which were tweaked for
> stability), was ~90% 'nice and stable, good setup', and ~10% 'a bit
> understeering, I like it a tad more lose'.
> Then people started asking for the setups I'm using myself, so when the
> TA physics came, from the second batch on I uploaded the setups I was
> using myself.
> Since then, the feedback has been ~70% 'I can't drive them' versus ~30%
> 'yep good setups' <g>
> Now I started a little Poll on my website regarding what type of setups
> people want, and the votes I'm getting are ~66% in favour of me
> continuing to upload the 'lose' setups versus ~33% in favour of setups
> tweaked for stability :)
> Confusing :)
> Achim
Regards
> I'm absolutely positive this is a better setup. Better through the turns
> (less understeer), better under braking, easier to drive, and also faster.
> You can push harder and throw the car around more than you can with the
> leblanc setup. I managed a 159.5, which was an immeditate drop of 1.5
> seconds off my my best time with the other.
> I also noticed the tire wear seems less, and the temps aren't an issue.
> RASCAR drivers should try out the setup and then post your thoughts to
this
> thread as soon as possible.
> Get the setup here. http://users.skynet.be/AchimT/start.html
> Thanks Joachim!
> David G Fisher
> BTW, I'm going to take some motion sickness pills before I race on Sat.
This
> track is bumpy enough that I start feeling a little lightheaded after 10
> laps or so. :-p
> > > If there's any complaints about this setup (LeBlanc70), let's hear
them
> now
> > > because tomorrow would be the absolutely last day to make any changes.
> > > Also, what times have you been seeing with this setup? I tried this
> track
> > > for the first time today. Started out with a 2:07, and finished with a
> 2:01.
> > > I don't have a reference for what a good time would be though.
> > Since I just can't help but accepting a challenge ;) I've made a setup
> > for Sebring, meant to be relatively stable.
> > I've done a couple of 1:58's with it at 70o Clear with half a tank of
> > fuel on board... so if anyone wants to try... ;)
> > Achim
David G Fisher
> Here it is Thursday, and I STILL don't know what damned setup we are
> running!
> -Larry
> > > If we are going to do this without having proven setups, and have to
> deal
> > > with this each week, then we should just run open setups for the rest
of
> the
> > > TA sessions.
> > > This has GOT to get better.
> > Don't go there ;)
David G Fisher
> For those of you running under 2 min lap times, tell me (and be honest
:)),
> just how much are you chopping off the last right-hander before the finish
> line?
> I can't help but think the real track has some kind of barrier here to
stop
> this.
> -Larry
> > >>IMHO<<
> > If we are going to do this without having proven setups, and have to
deal
> > with this each week, then we should just run open setups for the rest of
> the
> > TA sessions.
> > This has GOT to get better.
> > -Larry
> > > Personally I won't have time to turn any laps with any other setups
and
> > its
> > > already pretty late in the week for a change. I can adjust to the
other
> > > setup if required though.
> > > Mitch
> > > > I had just sat down to search some sites for a better setup for this
> > > track,
> > > > and then I saw this. :-)
> > > > I'm absolutely positive this is a better setup. Better through the
> turns
> > > > (less understeer), better under braking, easier to drive, and also
> > faster.
> > > > You can push harder and throw the car around more than you can with
> the
> > > > leblanc setup. I managed a 159.5, which was an immeditate drop of
1.5
> > > > seconds off my my best time with the other.
> > > > I also noticed the tire wear seems less, and the temps aren't an
> issue.
> > > > RASCAR drivers should try out the setup and then post your thoughts
to
> > > this
> > > > thread as soon as possible.
> > > > Get the setup here. http://users.skynet.be/AchimT/start.html
> > > > Thanks Joachim!
> > > > David G Fisher
> > > > BTW, I'm going to take some motion sickness pills before I race on
> Sat.
> > > This
> > > > track is bumpy enough that I start feeling a little lightheaded
after
> 10
> > > > laps or so. :-p
> > > > > > If there's any complaints about this setup (LeBlanc70), let's
hear
> > > them
> > > > now
> > > > > > because tomorrow would be the absolutely last day to make any
> > changes.
> > > > > > Also, what times have you been seeing with this setup? I tried
> this
> > > > track
> > > > > > for the first time today. Started out with a 2:07, and finished
> with
> > a
> > > > 2:01.
> > > > > > I don't have a reference for what a good time would be though.
> > > > > Since I just can't help but accepting a challenge ;) I've made a
> setup
> > > > > for Sebring, meant to be relatively stable.
> > > > > I've done a couple of 1:58's with it at 70o Clear with half a tank
> of
> > > > > fuel on board... so if anyone wants to try... ;)
> > > > > Achim
David G Fisher
> Regards
> > I had just sat down to search some sites for a better setup for this
> track,
> > and then I saw this. :-)
> > I'm absolutely positive this is a better setup. Better through the turns
> > (less understeer), better under braking, easier to drive, and also
faster.
> > You can push harder and throw the car around more than you can with the
> > leblanc setup. I managed a 159.5, which was an immeditate drop of 1.5
> > seconds off my my best time with the other.
> > I also noticed the tire wear seems less, and the temps aren't an issue.
> > RASCAR drivers should try out the setup and then post your thoughts to
> this
> > thread as soon as possible.
> > Get the setup here. http://users.skynet.be/AchimT/start.html
> > Thanks Joachim!
> > David G Fisher
> > BTW, I'm going to take some motion sickness pills before I race on Sat.
> This
> > track is bumpy enough that I start feeling a little lightheaded after 10
> > laps or so. :-p
> > > > If there's any complaints about this setup (LeBlanc70), let's hear
> them
> > now
> > > > because tomorrow would be the absolutely last day to make any
changes.
> > > > Also, what times have you been seeing with this setup? I tried this
> > track
> > > > for the first time today. Started out with a 2:07, and finished with
a
> > 2:01.
> > > > I don't have a reference for what a good time would be though.
> > > Since I just can't help but accepting a challenge ;) I've made a setup
> > > for Sebring, meant to be relatively stable.
> > > I've done a couple of 1:58's with it at 70o Clear with half a tank of
> > > fuel on board... so if anyone wants to try... ;)
> > > Achim
That's my point. Theorethically we should max out revs in 6th on the longest
straight...
Not as critical as handling, perhaps, but still quite important.
Anyway, let's just use it. A lot of the fixed oval setups are horribly
geared as well.
Jan.
=---
Brian
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:21:45 -0500, "David G Fisher"
>David G Fisher
>> I don't want to, but we need a plan. There doesn't appear to be one right
>> now.
>> Here it is Thursday, and I STILL don't know what damned setup we are
>> running!
>> -Larry
>> > > If we are going to do this without having proven setups, and have to
>> deal
>> > > with this each week, then we should just run open setups for the rest
>of
>> the
>> > > TA sessions.
>> > > This has GOT to get better.
>> > Don't go there ;)
David G Fisher
> Brian
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:21:45 -0500, "David G Fisher"
> >There have been no "no" votes, a few "I'm ok with either" votes, and some
> >"yes" votes, so it looks like we go with Achim's setup.
> >David G Fisher
> >> I don't want to, but we need a plan. There doesn't appear to be one
right
> >> now.
> >> Here it is Thursday, and I STILL don't know what damned setup we are
> >> running!
> >> -Larry
> >> > > If we are going to do this without having proven setups, and have
to
> >> deal
> >> > > with this each week, then we should just run open setups for the
rest
> >of
> >> the
> >> > > TA sessions.
> >> > > This has GOT to get better.
> >> > Don't go there ;)
> >> I had just sat down to search some sites for a better setup for this
> >> track,
> >> and then I saw this. :-)
> >> I'm absolutely positive this is a better setup.
> > Thanks! I hope the others share your view this time :)
> > Achim
> Just FYI, I've taken the setup down to a 1:56.945 meanwhile...
> Achim
David G Fisher
Went to the***pit view, but kept the driving line on:
2:28 (spun on the double-apex righthander)
2:24 (spun somewhere else)
LF tire blew on lap 6
I seemed to lock up more while in***pit view. It also seemed like I was
going much slower in the turns. I don't see how you guys do it - I can't pick
out the turns well enough to know where to place the car on the track...
Even if I had TIME to make the race, I wouldn't subject you guys to my driving
ineptitude... :-(
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Tim
> >I started out 2m20s and got down to 2m10.8s... major communication
problem
> >between me and that Vette, I tell ya.
> You guys got my curiousity up. I downloaded the track and copied it in.
> Jumped in the car with F10 view and the driving line. The car wanders
back and
> forth, and I kept locking up the LF tire under braking. First 3 laps
were:
> 2:22
> 2:18
> 2:14
> Went to the***pit view, but kept the driving line on:
> 2:28 (spun on the double-apex righthander)
> 2:24 (spun somewhere else)
> LF tire blew on lap 6
> I seemed to lock up more while in***pit view. It also seemed like I was
> going much slower in the turns. I don't see how you guys do it - I can't
pick
> out the turns well enough to know where to place the car on the track...
> Even if I had TIME to make the race, I wouldn't subject you guys to my
driving
> ineptitude... :-(
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bluestringer.
thanks for the feedback.
I just posted that 1:56 here to give you guys an outline of what's in
the setup, as, understandably, I know nobody wants to waste time on a
setup that just can't go as fast as required.
I've btw dug up my old RoadA setup again and tried to make it easier to
drive, and I think I succeeded. The setup is maybe a tenth or two slower
than the old one, but I think it's considerably easier to drive. I'll
upload it in the next days - too late for you guys of course, I know.
Achim