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Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

Mitch_

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Mitch_ » Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:01:39

Anyone have a decent link to download ORSPG McLaren Mod for F1C.  On their
site it has a link but it takes you somewhere else that doesnt have a
download link.

Hasnt anyone ever heard of Bitorrent?

Mitch

Dave Henri

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Dave Henri » Sun, 25 Apr 2004 10:33:58


  Bitorrent hasn't really caught on yet here in Race Sim Land.  IT does
make sense for dialuppers when these huge mods are released.  But beyond
the BT debate, it shows how were are at the mercy of the vagaries of the
internet.  
  Almost every week I've run into lost links due to Race Sim Central's
hacking a couple of months ago.  I'm still trying get get a fully debugged
copy of the 67 version of Sebring and we end up with roadblock after
roadblock.

  A central depository for mods is a good thing, but the chance for loosing
files, and mods etc are magnified when you group them all together.

  For the 3rd time today I'm gonna make the same suggestion.(the first two
were elsewhere on forums, not RAS).  We should be using
alt.binaries.simulators.autos.  
  Perhaps somebody could write an automated robot uploaded that would
resend all the mods and carsets and tracks and utilities at predetermined
times.  This would keep everything current, give it a safe place, take the
load off of websites AND discourage software thieves from using OUR
newsgroup.

  I'll try and put up all my Mclaren Stuff there Mitch.

dave henrie

Eldre

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Eldre » Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:00:28

GAWD!  I'm so sick of that program I wish it had never been made...  Damn
students attracting DMCA infringement complaints...AUGH!

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Dave Henri

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Dave Henri » Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:05:26

4 parts of mc challenge are up one absa

dh

Mitch_

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Mitch_ » Sun, 25 Apr 2004 14:23:08

Thanks dave but whats the trick in a binaries group?  I see a bunch listed
for each part but out of all of em I could only find part one and part two
that give me an option to download the actual attachment.  Part 3-4 are all
gobblity gook ;)

Mitch


Mitch_

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Mitch_ » Sun, 25 Apr 2004 14:25:52

You need to get over this "lowest common denominator" reasoning Eldred ;)
Yea people are stupid all over but do we all need to suffer because of a
few?  Bitorrent is GREAT at what it does.  Just cause a bunch of crooked
college boys and girls use it for illegal purposes isnt a valid reason to
dis it :))

Mitch


Dave Henri

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Dave Henri » Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:44:56



   you might try a different newsgroup reader.  I use Xnews and was able to
dload the 4th part...the smallest...with no troubles.
There are other newsgroup dloaders that work well also, but the names
escape me.  Hopefully somebody else can chime in.

dh

Mitch_

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Mitch_ » Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:00:32

Why would it be the newsreader?  I was able to get 1 and 2 ok.  I dont think
it's  finished uploading to the server quite yet as Ive seen a few new ones
pop up this last time I checked.   Ill wait over night and get back at ya.

Thanks

Mitch

try a different newsgroup reader.  I use Xnews and was able to

Damien Evan

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Damien Evan » Sun, 25 Apr 2004 21:49:12

Bit Torrent is exactly the same as downloading from a server.  The only
difference is that the people downloading contribute their spare uploading
capacity to the overall bandwidth.  As you say, anyone who dis's BT simply
doesn't understand it.
Biz

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Biz » Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:45:59


> You need to get over this "lowest common denominator" reasoning Eldred ;)
> Yea people are stupid all over but do we all need to suffer because of a
> few?  Bitorrent is GREAT at what it does.  Just cause a bunch of crooked
> college boys and girls use it for illegal purposes isnt a valid reason to
> dis it :))

> Mitch

Its the "lowest common denominator" that ruin it for the good reasons to
have something like bittorrent around.  If you we could somehow get rid
of all the illegal activity on those types of technologies, there would
be plenty of people that would jump on it.
Mitch_

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Mitch_ » Mon, 26 Apr 2004 02:59:11

Ok it was the newsreader ;)

On a side note Xnews is great!

Thanks again Mr. Henrie

Mitch

Eldre

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Eldre » Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:06:52

The problem with BitTorrent is that anything you download is automatically
shared.  It isn't like KaZaa, where you can disable sharing and download all
you want.  Our position is that we don't penalize people who download, but we
penalize those who share and get caught.  Since BT shares all the time, and
it's so popular, I want it to die a slow painful death and burn in hell... :-(

Eldred
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Eldre

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Eldre » Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:11:04

I understand it *perfectly*, and no it isn't the same.  If you download from a
server, you're not automatically sharing out to the world.  With BitTorrent,
you do.  That means that the agents of music and movie copyright holders can
and do discover people with infringing material on their systems.  I get e-mail
every day reporting copyright infringement, and I have to deal with the
situation all the time.  THAT is why I hate BitTorrent.

Eldred
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Dave Henri

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Dave Henri » Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:22:19



   Ya See Damien,  Eldred is a University Admin type guy.  He's responsible
for all the systems online at some ***y tiny podunk college in Michigan.  
It may even have been the one that NARROWLY avoided defeat at the hands of
the WSU Cougars in the Rose Bowl a few years back.  But I digress...
One man's savior is an Admin's worst nightmare.

dave henrie

Mitch_

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Mitch_ » Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:23:10

Your issues SHOULD be with theDMCA and it's publishers.  Bitorrent does it's
job EXACTLY as it was designed and it does it EXTREMELY well.  Youre just
mad cause youre caught in the middle of this moronic war ;)  IMO youre
attacking an innocent bystander that does nothing wrong by itself.

Im still trying to get Mclaren mod for F1C.  It's been days now when it
couldve taken minutes using Bitorrent.  But using your logic, kill the
messenger ;)

Mitch


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