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Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

Eldre

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Eldre » Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:44:46

Boy, this has been an education.  The funny(?) thing about the whole situation
is that I don't have a problem with people downloading stuff.  I don't even
have a problem with people sharing stuff.  Anybody who really knows me here
*should* know that, but that's another discussion.  However, on our network, we
can't allow people to share copyrighted files(that may make the university
liable), and I have to take any steps possible to prevent it.  It's my job as
network administrator to ensure the integrity of the network.  I've even told
students that we don't care that you download, as long as you're not using a
disproportionate amount of bandwidth.  We don't penalize for downloading.
Sharing is a different matter.

I don't believe I ever told anyone here not to use BitTorrent, or condemmed
their use for it.  I only stated that *I* hate the program, and explained why.
I got jumped on simply for stating my opinion.  That's a little
disappointing(especially from some of the people involved), but it's an example
of the mob behavior we've seen in this group in the past.  Based on some of the
replies, it was clear to me that most people weren't understanding my point of
view, and nothing was being accomplished on either side.  Up to that point, it
was civil, but no one's mind was being changed.  So I stopped my side of the
discussion, basically agreeing to disagree.  Some random yahoo takes that as a
cue to attack.  I respond to that attack, but somehow that makes *me* the bad
guy?  I don't see that as being fair either, but live and learn, I guess.

Eldred
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Mitch_

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Mitch_ » Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:09:10

My irritation wasn't at all directed towards you Eldred.  I'd been trying
unsuccessfully to d/l the McLaren mod and everywhere I turned was an invalid
link or a link that was extremely slow.  Bitorrent could easily have solved
my dilemma efficiently and effectively was all I was pointing out.  Being an
admin I fully understand your point but as I said I hate that a few bad
apples ruin the entire crop for everyone.

Mitch


PigDo

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by PigDo » Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:50:24


BitTorrent is a great and useful program and I'm very sorry that its
existance inconveniences you.  The fact that it does inconvenience you
however is quite irrelevant, as is the subject of copyrighted material since
such material can also be downloaded via just about any other method of
internet use.  I'm not really sure what your point is?  You don't like it
because of some legal technicality where its OK to download illegal material
as long as you can't be shown to be distributing it?  The whole logic of
that seems a bit ridiculous, what would you like done exactly?

Eldre

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Eldre » Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:21:01

After your post, I was planning to offer to host it if someone sent it to me.
Got caught up in the yelling match, and totally forgot...
I assume you found it now?

Eldred
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Eldre

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Eldre » Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:34:02

To you, maybe.  Not to me, otherwise I wouldn't have brought it up.

That's obvious.

It only seems ridiculous to you because you're not in my situation.  That's
cool - I can understand that.

If people simply download using Kazaa, Gnutella, etc. and have sharing off, the
music companies currently don't have the capability to detect what they're
downloading.  So we couldn't enforce a copyright policy for that.  Since it's
an educational institution, there are also limits on how much we can lock down
the network.

I don't like BitTorrent because you can't disable sharing.  So if someone on
our network uses it for downloading copyrighted files, they are sharing at the
same time, and the copyright holders can and do discover it.  Since I'm the one
who has to field every DMCA complaint for a residence hall user, this program
*directly* impacts my workload just by being used on the network.

I still don't expect you to agree with me, but hopefully you at least
understand my situation a little better...

Eldred
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Mitch_

Mclaren GR mod for F1C download location?

by Mitch_ » Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:13:50

Yea I got it, thanks though.



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