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GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

ChrisG2

GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

by ChrisG2 » Sat, 03 May 2003 02:15:51

Just installed a new Audigy 2. Now when I play GPL I get lots of stuttering
and freeze frames. This happens a lot when there are lots of cars on the
track. Upgraded from SB live which worked fine (then why the F**K did you
upgrade). Any ideas on getting this running?

Chris

ps. I'm running 98se

Steve Smit

GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

by Steve Smit » Sat, 03 May 2003 19:46:46

Did you reinstall the SBA2 in the same slot as yer previous card?  It sounds
like an IRQ conflict, but before you start manually re-assigning IRQs, you
might try moving the card to another slot.  Not the one next to the AGP
slot, but try the one below that.


Achi

GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

by Achi » Sat, 03 May 2003 19:54:46


Have you checked for interrupt or other ressource conflicts? The A2 worked
fine with GPL here under WinME - just to tell you there's not an inherent
problem between the two.

--
Achim

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Dave Henri

GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

by Dave Henri » Sat, 03 May 2003 22:15:28



   Back in the good ol days of DOS, somebody told me to put the sound card
and video card as far apart as possible.  I've pretty much stuck to that
ever since.  As Steve said, you don't want the two biggest hogs of your PCI
bus fighting each other for access.  
dh

Steve Smit

GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

by Steve Smit » Sun, 04 May 2003 08:47:13

Achim: Yes me too.  Both work fine together here.

Dave: Usually the "higher" (closer to the AGP slot) the slot, the lower the
IRQ, which is good.  Back in the day, adjacent slots shared an IRQ.
Nowadays, tho, the shared IRQs may be several slots apart.  Your mobo docu
will usually show you which.  If you've lost the docu, you can do it
empirically, by moving the card around and doing a partial boot (up to--but
not including--the dreaded msg. "Starting Windows").  One of the boot
screens (it helps to disable the Windoze logo in msdos.sys) will show a list
of PCI devices and which IRQs they're using.  Worst case: into the BIOS and
manually assign IRQs (not for the faint of heart).



> > Just installed a new Audigy 2. Now when I play GPL I get lots of
stuttering
> > and freeze frames. This happens a lot when there are lots of cars on the
> > track. Upgraded from SB live which worked fine (then why the F**K did
you
> > upgrade). Any ideas on getting this running?

> Have you checked for interrupt or other ressource conflicts? The A2 worked
> fine with GPL here under WinME - just to tell you there's not an inherent
> problem between the two.

> --
> Achim

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Karl Doyl

GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

by Karl Doyl » Sun, 04 May 2003 09:38:12

I had exactly the same problem under 98se, and the only way I found to fix
it was to reduce hardware acceleration in advanced audio properties to
basic.

Karl


Tom Pabs

GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

by Tom Pabs » Mon, 05 May 2003 03:29:36

The A2, with WDM drivers (these are WinXP drivers) instead of VXD drivers
(these are Win98SE drivers) will not work well, if at all.....in Win98SE.
It also won't work very well in NASCAR 2003.  As of this date, Creative does
not intend to further support Win98SE......and their updated drivers on
their website are WDM drivers only.

If you are going to continue to run Win98SE.....go back to your SB Live
card.  In fact, in racing sims, the A2 card offers no improvement...maybe
even less quality sound (considering all the driver problems in Win98SE).
If you are an audiophile, do lot of music recording and so forth, then the
A2 makes sense.  If not, stick with the SB Live (or SB 5.1 X-gamer) versions
or go to another sound card company with similar products.  Creative is
essentially abandoning the Win98SE platform.

By the way, Achim's A2 works in WinMe, because WinMe can (but no guarantee)
work with the WDM drivers - maybe.  But, it still works best with the VXD
drivers...he's just lucky his sound card is working....and I doubt he's
installed the updated patch from Creative...because there are no reports of
the A2 working in WinMe with those drivers installed!

Beware, dump Win98SE....or dump Creative....there are no other choices in
the matter.

Tom


Dave Henri

GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

by Dave Henri » Mon, 05 May 2003 09:31:57

"Tom Pabst"

   hmmm dump a company that has no respect for resource sharing or dump a
company that has no respect for sharing.   Tough choice.  

dave henrie

Achi

GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

by Achi » Mon, 05 May 2003 18:59:55


...

Hi Tom,

two minor correction:

- it worked with the VxD drivers off the A2's install CD as well, with one
little glitch in that when shifting, sometimes the screen seemed to stop
for a millisecond, as the shift sound was loaded or played. The effect
only occurred during upshifts, and luckily was sufficiently minor to not
affect the driving.

- and, right now I'm using the auto-updated drivers from Creative, which
are WDM, and that little glitch has gone away. I.e., the WDM drivers
actually work better for me.

IMHO, btw, the A2 sounds better than the SB's, but only is interesting for
racing sims if these use the A2's advanced effects. GPL does not.

N2003 under WinME works well with the A2, and even moderately uses some of
the A2's advanced effects. But I can't compare the A2 to an SB in N2003,
so I don't know how big the difference is.

--
Achim

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Steve Smit

GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

by Steve Smit » Mon, 05 May 2003 20:29:57

Right on, Sir!



> ...
> > By the way, Achim's A2 works in WinMe, because WinMe can (but no
guarantee)
> > work with the WDM drivers - maybe.  But, it still works best with the
VXD
> > drivers...he's just lucky his sound card is working....and I doubt he's
> > installed the updated patch from Creative...because there are no reports
of
> > the A2 working in WinMe with those drivers installed!

> Hi Tom,

> two minor correction:

> - it worked with the VxD drivers off the A2's install CD as well, with one
> little glitch in that when shifting, sometimes the screen seemed to stop
> for a millisecond, as the shift sound was loaded or played. The effect
> only occurred during upshifts, and luckily was sufficiently minor to not
> affect the driving.

> - and, right now I'm using the auto-updated drivers from Creative, which
> are WDM, and that little glitch has gone away. I.e., the WDM drivers
> actually work better for me.

> IMHO, btw, the A2 sounds better than the SB's, but only is interesting for
> racing sims if these use the A2's advanced effects. GPL does not.

> N2003 under WinME works well with the A2, and even moderately uses some of
> the A2's advanced effects. But I can't compare the A2 to an SB in N2003,
> so I don't know how big the difference is.

> --
> Achim

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Joachim Trens

GPL/Audigy 2 upgrade problems

by Joachim Trens » Tue, 06 May 2003 06:05:08

I forgot to add, Tom., nice post to Harvey over in the Audigy NG, and very
understandable.

Achim


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