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F1RS or GP2?

Travis Kallne

F1RS or GP2?

by Travis Kallne » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Which one of these F1 sims is the msot realistic? Thanks for your input!

Travis Kallner

ymenar

F1RS or GP2?

by ymenar » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Travis Kallner wrote

You know Im always right Travis  ;-)

I would say download the F1RS demo (or the MGPSR2), judge by yourself and if
you don't like  it get Grand Prix 2.

GP2 is starting to get a little old (similar to Icr2 in the "oldiness"), but
it's game engine is still great and the almost infinite number of created
tracks and utilities makes for tons and tons of Entertainment hours.  There
is great "year" patch that changes every track, cars, and physics to create
fun and different challenges.

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F1RS or GP2?

by Greg Cisk » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

f1rs

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>Which one of these F1 sims is the msot realistic? Thanks for your input!

>Travis Kallner

Travis Kallne

F1RS or GP2?

by Travis Kallne » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

You're always right? When's the last time I said that? <VBG>
Yeah, I'll probably try out the F1RS demo in a few. Just didn't want to waste
the time on downloading it if it turned out to be very poor.
Travis Kallne

F1RS or GP2?

by Travis Kallne » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00


> You'll have to ask an F1 driver for a realistic answer :)

True. But I'm just looking for an answer of "Yeah, I know following basics of
physics that its impossible to go into a tight corner at 500 mph and still make
it out without a scratch." :)

Thanks for the comparison of the two. I'm gonna download the F1RS demo, but
probably end up buying GP2 just because of the facts you stated, plus it has
more file support on the net.

jalo

F1RS or GP2?

by jalo » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Can I still buy GP2? What 3D video card works best with it (if it is 3D).
Is it a good game? I enjoy F1RS and Monaco, and GPL, if I ever got a decent
wheel. Would I enjoy GP2.
By the way, I have Monster3D II (sli), a Viper550, 128 megs of ram, and a
PII 450.

Bern

F1RS or GP2?

by Bern » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

You'll have to ask an F1 driver for a realistic answer :)

Personally I think gp2 recreates the feel of formula one better even though
F1RS may be more mathematically correct.

I get the feeling that ubi soft just got some data of renault and whaked it
into the code and there you have your game. Too bad for those of us that
actually wanted to feel some of the pressure and intensity a real driver
goes through, or actually have fun! Ive been playing gp2 on and off since it
came out and little details crop up that I still didn't know could happen in
the game.
The AI in gp2 is much more human than the mindless drones that go around on
rails in F1RS.  About the only thing F1RS has over gp2 is accelerated
graphics, even then the models seem "small?". I read that one of the
developers say the only unrealistic thing is that you can see more than an
F1 driver, the way you can see either side of the tires is helpful but
unrealistic and gives the tracks and cars a small look and makes accurate
driving difficult. Gp2's engine and skid sound arent the greatest but give
you much more feedback than any game while F1RS sound like a synthiszer with
a cold.

Also im in a typing mood so here is a quote from Pommie Aussie V8 Racer
Russel Ingall.
"I enjoy Grand Prix 2 the most because, as a driver, I appreciate how
technical it is. Just from a basic technical point of view, GP2 was much
better than F1RS. It reacted much better to what you did to the cars. F1 had
better graphics but the car set-up was not as good by a longshot -
adjustments to the car didn't have the effect they were meant to. I was a
little dissapointed.

I use GP2 on the longer races, like six*** laps, for concertration
training. You have to stay consistent and focussed, just like in a real
race."

Phew that was a lot eh! Please don't flame me ubi lovers I was really
looking forward to this game when it was comeing out so long ago and I was
just realy dissapointed that it wasn't better than Gp2.

Regards
Berno


>Which one of these F1 sims is the msot realistic? Thanks for your input!

>Travis Kallner

Ben Colema

F1RS or GP2?

by Ben Colema » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Pretty sure GP2 has no hardware 3D support...but with your system, there
should be no problem running it with detail maxed!  At the time of release,
I was miffed that I had to scale detail down to run on my P166.  I ran it
recently on my P2-300 and was blown away (again).

Ben...who hasn't even pulled the GP2 cd out since loading GPL


>>GP2 is starting to get a little old (similar to Icr2 in the "oldiness"),
>but
>>it's game engine is still great and the almost infinite number of created
>>tracks and utilities makes for tons and tons of Entertainment hours.
There
>>is great "year" patch that changes every track, cars, and physics to
create
>>fun and different challenges.

>Can I still buy GP2? What 3D video card works best with it (if it is 3D).
>Is it a good game? I enjoy F1RS and Monaco, and GPL, if I ever got a decent
>wheel. Would I enjoy GP2.
>By the way, I have Monster3D II (sli), a Viper550, 128 megs of ram, and a
>PII 450.

Andrea Prevot

F1RS or GP2?

by Andrea Prevot » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Jacques Willeneuve practiced on GP2 before his first try at SPA, this was
before F1RS was out.
Basically it helped him to get to know the track, but he said that the car
handling was totally unrealistic.
At least wew know what a real F1 driver says about one of these games.
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>Which one of these F1 sims is the msot realistic? Thanks for your input!

>Travis Kallner

David G Fishe

F1RS or GP2?

by David G Fishe » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Get the MGPRS2 demo, not F1RS. Also, change your tires to soft as the
default is hard tires. There is a lot of file support for MGPRS2. Check this
site. http://www.mgprs2.com/index.html

David GFisher


>Thanks for the comparison of the two. I'm gonna download the F1RS demo, but
>probably end up buying GP2 just because of the facts you stated, plus it
has
>more file support on the net.

Graeme Nas

F1RS or GP2?

by Graeme Nas » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

If GP2 is unrealistic I wonder what that makes F1RS!!!!

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Greg Cisk

F1RS or GP2?

by Greg Cisk » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00


>You're always right? When's the last time I said that? <VBG>
>Yeah, I'll probably try out the F1RS demo in a few. Just didn't want to
waste
>the time on downloading it if it turned out to be very poor.

If you have a 3dfx  card of some type the game will kick ass. If you do
not have one of these cards then the game will probably suck. Also
GP2 has no 3D card support of any type. It also has no weather
changes. F1RS has great weather changes. In fact you tend to
loose your rhythm (at least I do) simply because the shadows move
during the course of a race. You can start the race with no clouds
and end up totally over cast. F1RS also has rain! Some have reported
that the rain will even stop and start during a race or session. Also,
I have an Ensoniq AudioPCI (SBPCI64) and use the 3D sound
patch. I have been saved from many wrecks simply by 'hearing'
the computer driven car next to me. You can also hear the cars
infront and behind you shifting from the left to right side of the
track. To really hear this you do need either headphones or
to crank up your normal speakers. F1RS also has good editors
and 1998 carsets which people have created. I use them and they
are  superb. I tried MGPRS2 and returned it. IMHO it did not add enough
to F1RS to even justify the $19.99 price. Also on my P2-450 with
12MB voodoo2 card the framerate at monaco was worse than F1RS.
And the 3D sound was worse also. All in all I thought it was a step
backwards. IMHO these reasons are more than enough to not
even consider GP2.

BTW, the reason I gave the one word response is that anyone who
read even a little about F1RS would know all this already :-)

I am a big modern F1 sim racer (I even tried Road & Tracks GP)
and IMHO the only sim with it all is F1RS (or MGPRS2 if you can't
find F1RS). Notice I said 'modern'. I have never even tried GPL
because I am not into that era of racing.

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Ben Summer

F1RS or GP2?

by Ben Summer » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00


>>Jacques Willeneuve practiced on GP2 before his first try at SPA, this was
>>before F1RS was out.
>>Basically it helped him to get to know the track, but he said that the car
>>handling was totally unrealistic.
>>At least wew know what a real F1 driver says about one of these games.

>If GP2 is unrealistic I wonder what that makes F1RS!!!!

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I agree Graeme.....

By the way.. I love your tracks  !!!!!

Ben Summers

Tony

F1RS or GP2?

by Tony » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Jacques says that he plays video games all the time, "I love playing arcade
games. It's a good test of reflexes, but also helps me prepare for Grands
Prix."

TB


>it matters not...because an F1 driver will never take the time to try
>it.

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>>If GP2 is unrealistic I wonder what that makes F1RS!!!!

Ronald Stoe

F1RS or GP2?

by Ronald Stoe » Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:00



> >You're always right? When's the last time I said that? <VBG>
> >Yeah, I'll probably try out the F1RS demo in a few. Just didn't want to
> waste
> >the time on downloading it if it turned out to be very poor.

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> BTW, the reason I gave the one word response is that anyone who
> read even a little about F1RS would know all this already :-)

..as long as you're not in some love/hate relationship with
the sim producers... ;^)

l8er
ronny

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