rec.autos.simulators

1] How are the Murasama's fairing?
2] How do the Coventry's fare...?
3] Ferrari?

I've read a few posts about the Lotus drivers and I don't like to Drive the BRM
because it's additional gear messes me up when I go back to another car.

Thanks.......

I haven't seen a single one in online races.

These can be competitive with some setup tuning. I've seen some that came
close (even damn close) to my Eagle at some tracks in terms of speed.

I saw a Ferrari do 3:20 at Spa a couple nights ago.

That was probably the thread I started.  Some have correctly pointed out
that it's not necessarily just Lotus drivers that are over-agressive and
that use poor judgement or lack of common sense.  For instance, I was
hosting a race at Mosport where I was rear-ended by the SAME Ferarri
driver twice at the same spot in the track because "...nobody ever brakes
where i did on the track...".  If people like this would learn to drive
in traffic (adapting to other peoples' driving styles), incidents like
those wouldn't happen nearly as often.

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I've seen a couple around, at Spa races. It's power helps it out there
but the Lotii and Eagles were still quicker.

I've won in one.....! And generally they fare well; podium finishes are
always on when the drivers in faster cars spin off.

I've driven in several races where Ferrari drivers win. You'll always
have a chance in one.  

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Remco

This is  my last hope in my VROC problems.

Every time i join a session, GPL starts up, I choose multiplayer, I
see the IP adress of the host, I choose this host and I get these
messages:

Connections status
Opening channel
Opening network device
    - immediately followed by:
Timed out opening communications channel
Closing network device

How can I resolve this problem, it is driving me nuts, online racing
seems so close but now also so far away!!

    Read Bart's post. If you have a problem connecting it might be that
you haven't installed the core.ini file to the main GPL directory. And
then again, the race might have started or be in progress and that will
also return a message similar to the one you recieved.

    Review Allison's fac. Modem settings could help you out, but then
again they might not. Some ISP's require error correction and such to
connect to them; as does mine.

    Brent Martin
    GMSS Div 2 Lotus/Grey

I have a couple of replays of me driving one, but they're not what
you'd call common. Perhaps Alison's new Murasama setups will change
that <hint, hint>

Again, not too bad. Trouble is that the Coventry's only advantage is
that you are less likely to fall off the track with it. If one drivers
can keep a Lotus on the track and someone else can keep the Coventry
on the track, the Lotus will in all probability win.

Cheers!
John

writes:

Have you downloaded the GPING.EXE file from VROC?  You need this to run
online...

Eldred

GPL changes your 'Connect VIA...' setting after the
address book entry is selected.

Jason.

I feel that's an oversimplification, John.  

As I said in my notes on the Coventry, the fact that it is more
forgiving makes it a much better tool for learning, for both driving and
race tactics.  Because you're not always fighting the car to keep it
pointed straight, you have more brain power left for honing your car
control skills, for finding the best line, finding the best braking
points, and so forth.  You have time to think, time to react if you go
in too deep or turn in too late.  

In races, you're not working so hard, so you get less tired, and are
less likely to make mistakes.

For people who are developing their skills as a Grand Prix driver, these
qualities are immensely valuable, IMHO.  As a strategic choice, the
Coventry is an excellent option, especially for those who are not yet in
the front rank of driver skill.

True, but that's a big "if".  From what I've seen on VROC and in online
race series, there is only a handful of drivers in the world who can
consistently keep the Lotus on the track for an entire race distance.
My guess is that there are a lot more people who can consistently keep
the Coventry on the track for an entire race distance.

I believe that if those who do not consistently keep the Lotus on the
track for an entire race distance were to put their egos aside and run
the Coventry instead, they would not only win more races, but they'd
become better drivers in the process.

Alison

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Again, with Alison's setups, this car is pretty competitive.  This is
particularly true in Realistic damage races (i.e., no Shift-R).  While
the other cars are crashing out, you can cruise around and win some
races.

On Saturday I was in a race at Spa where the fast lap was set by a guy
in a Ferrari.  Unfortunately, this same driver punted me off the track
going into the last turn of the race (and I would have come in 3rd in a
Coventry).  I had previously let this guy pass me only to pass him again
after he crashed.  I looked at the replay and he was off the track at
least five times in a five lap race - most of those resulting in a
Shift-R.  So this type of racing isn't exclusive to the Lotus.

I don't think the Lotus drivers are any different than the other people
(see above), there are just so many more of them.  Of all the cars, the
BRM is probably the worst.

Absolutely.  There seems to be a ton of amazingly fast hotlappers racing
online who have no patience and no clue as to how to pass us mortals.

Dave Ewing

At any tracks where top speed down the straight isn't the deciding issue,
the Cooper can win races. Even at tracks where it matters, it can win. I've
won a few times at Monza in it simply because I could stay out of the weeds
for how ever many laps it took (even 21).

The Ferrari isn't bad at any track, just never as fast as the Lotus or
Eagle. But it rarely blows engines and has few real vices except for the
lack of top end. With players of equal skill, I think the Ferrari is
competetive with the Lotus or Eagle - even at Monza - where you can make up
time in CG and the Lesmos (at least that's where I seem to catch up in it).

There are also some people out there who are just amazingly smooth and in
control. I watched Wolfgang Woeger doing his qual's at Spa once. He passed a
guy right in the middle of the Malmedy complex and did it so smooth that
neither he nor the passee was really bothered. It was beautiful to watch.

But there's only a small handful of folks like WW. There a more hot-lappers
who then go into NASCAR mode during a race. They'll pile into you because
they know they can make up the time after a shift-R and you can't. Or
they'll go off-track at least once every 5 miles, so you catch up to them
when they're swerving madly on cold tires - when it's a ***shoot on
whether to pass them.

Man is that the truth.

    DOK> This is my last hope in my VROC problems.

    DOK> Every time i join a session, GPL starts up, I choose
    DOK> multiplayer, I see the IP adress of the host, I choose this
    DOK> host and I get these messages:

        <SNIP>

    DOK> How can I resolve this problem, it is driving me nuts, online
    DOK> racing seems so close but now also so far away!!

This is also what you will see when you are behind a firewall (at
least Linux IPMasq firewalls, possibly others).

Search DejaNEWS for Linux, GPL and Masquerade for the full discussion....

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