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Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

whodagu

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by whodagu » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 16:45:31

I have the original Logitech FF and was wondering if the new Momo version
improves on the pedals or any of the the other functions?

Thanks,
Whodaguy

Paulinh

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Paulinh » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:39:45

The pedals are much the same but look nicer, the wheel is better all round
with more buttons and better feeling.

Murchma

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Murchma » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:53:32

Although the pedals are close to the same design is the originals they have
a few two things that make the 100% better. First is that they now have a
nice wide pedal tops. Second is the pedal tops are on hinges so it's much
more comfortable and allows you to push on them at better angles.


> The pedals are much the same but look nicer, the wheel is better all round
> with more buttons and better feeling.


> > I have the original Logitech FF and was wondering if the new Momo
version
> > improves on the pedals or any of the the other functions?

> > Thanks,
> > Whodaguy

Andre Warrin

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Andre Warrin » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:06:00

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:39:45 +0000 (UTC), "Paulinho"


>The pedals are much the same but look nicer, the wheel is better all round
>with more buttons and better feeling.

The pedals are definately not the same. They have a pivot movement,
making them much more comfortable. And with a squashball tucked under
the brake pedal the Momo pedals are fantastic.
I could never drive with the LWFF pedals, replaced those very soon for
CH pedals.

Andre

Gunnar Horrigm

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Gunnar Horrigm » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 23:09:46


> Although the pedals are close to the same design is the originals they have
> a few two things that make the 100% better. First is that they now have a
> nice wide pedal tops. Second is the pedal tops are on hinges so it's much
> more comfortable and allows you to push on them at better angles.

and they have a bigger footrest, so they don't scoot around on the floor.

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The Other Larr

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by The Other Larr » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 04:09:54

They're still not great for people with big foots, though :(

-Larry


> On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:39:45 +0000 (UTC), "Paulinho"

> >The pedals are much the same but look nicer, the wheel is better all
round
> >with more buttons and better feeling.

> The pedals are definately not the same. They have a pivot movement,
> making them much more comfortable. And with a squashball tucked under
> the brake pedal the Momo pedals are fantastic.
> I could never drive with the LWFF pedals, replaced those very soon for
> CH pedals.

> Andre

Murchma

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Murchma » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 04:11:02

I have a size 12 foot and have no problems with them. How big a foot do you
have?

Murchman



> They're still not great for people with big foots, though :(

> -Larry



> > On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:39:45 +0000 (UTC), "Paulinho"

> > >The pedals are much the same but look nicer, the wheel is better all
> round
> > >with more buttons and better feeling.

> > The pedals are definately not the same. They have a pivot movement,
> > making them much more comfortable. And with a squashball tucked under
> > the brake pedal the Momo pedals are fantastic.
> > I could never drive with the LWFF pedals, replaced those very soon for
> > CH pedals.

> > Andre

Andre Warring

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Andre Warring » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 04:21:44

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:09:54 GMT, "Larry \(The Other Larry\)"


>They're still not great for people with big foots, though :(

>-Larry

Size Euro 46.5 here, that UK12 and USA14 I believe.. :)

Andre

Morris Jone

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Morris Jone » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:06:10

I love the wheel but I use the Actlabs Performace pedals, make a great
combo.


> On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:09:54 GMT, "Larry \(The Other Larry\)"

> >They're still not great for people with big foots, though :(

> >-Larry

> Size Euro 46.5 here, that UK12 and USA14 I believe.. :)

> Andre

John Bowe

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by John Bowe » Sat, 23 Feb 2002 02:43:41

i had the original formula force, with the wheel that is entirely red, and
just bought the MOMO.  Here are my observations.

    MOMO pedals are better.  The pedal base is heavier, so it does not move
about.  The dual articulated pedals also make gas and brake precision much
easier.

MOMO steering accuracy is better.  This may be a function of my  Formula
Force being a couple of years older.  Either way, it's easier to maintain
the proper line in the corners.

Formula Force, with cables rather than gears, was/is much smoother.  You can
feel the gears in the MOMO; feeling a bit notchy.  The FF wheel did not feel
that way.

Formula Force has better feedback.  It is stronger, and seems more accurate.
Not by much, but noticeable.

MOMO wheel has less play in bearings.  Reportedly the MOMO has a huge metal
ball bearing in the wheel mechanism.  The Formula Force has only plastic
bushings, which are only about an inch in diameter.  Pictures of the MOMO's
bearings appear to be about 3".

MOMO buttons are harder to find when driving.  This may be something that
just takes time to get used to.

MOMO wheel is not as grippy.  The grippy *** on the original FF is easy
to hang on to. The leather on the MOMO is cool, but not necessarily better.
I would rather they canned the trademark name and leather, and save us some
money.

Overall the MOMO has improved my lap times and control.  Actual feel,
subjectively, is not as good.  Button placement, gear feeling, leather vs
***, etc, are the downsides.  I'm hoping in time I'll get used the
differences.  From a reality standpoint, the cable drive in the original is
much more realistic, no matter how used you get to the MOMO, to the gear
drive.


Ice

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Ice » Sat, 23 Feb 2002 03:22:56


> MOMO wheel is not as grippy.  The grippy *** on the original FF is easy
> to hang on to. The leather on the MOMO is cool, but not necessarily
better.
> I would rather they canned the trademark name and leather, and save us
some
> money.

I've found that the leather makes my thumbs black (the default setting for
my hands appears to be 'sweaty'). I bought some cycling gloves, so it's not
a problem anymore now. Expect I wear gloves at my PC, which is pretty lame
when I think about it... :)

Ice D

Damien Smit

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Damien Smit » Sat, 23 Feb 2002 11:58:31

The leather would be OK if is wasn't so rock-hard.  Nowhere near as
comfortable as the LWFF IMO.  The pivoting pedals are better though.
Mike Beaucham

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Mike Beaucham » Sat, 23 Feb 2002 15:12:28

I agree with your comment about dropping the momo name, and especially the
fancy leather.

But, I said the same thing about my Ferrari Formula Force.. they should drop
the "Ferrari"....

But then you gotta think, is dropping the "MOMO" name gonna save them
money?? Think about how many more units they sold because people are like
"It says momo maaan". But hey, I ain't no marketing major :)

Mike
http://www.racesimcentral.net/


> i had the original formula force, with the wheel that is entirely red, and
> just bought the MOMO.  Here are my observations.

>     MOMO pedals are better.  The pedal base is heavier, so it does not
move
> about.  The dual articulated pedals also make gas and brake precision much
> easier.

> MOMO steering accuracy is better.  This may be a function of my  Formula
> Force being a couple of years older.  Either way, it's easier to maintain
> the proper line in the corners.

> Formula Force, with cables rather than gears, was/is much smoother.  You
can
> feel the gears in the MOMO; feeling a bit notchy.  The FF wheel did not
feel
> that way.

> Formula Force has better feedback.  It is stronger, and seems more
accurate.
> Not by much, but noticeable.

> MOMO wheel has less play in bearings.  Reportedly the MOMO has a huge
metal
> ball bearing in the wheel mechanism.  The Formula Force has only plastic
> bushings, which are only about an inch in diameter.  Pictures of the
MOMO's
> bearings appear to be about 3".

> MOMO buttons are harder to find when driving.  This may be something that
> just takes time to get used to.

> MOMO wheel is not as grippy.  The grippy *** on the original FF is easy
> to hang on to. The leather on the MOMO is cool, but not necessarily
better.
> I would rather they canned the trademark name and leather, and save us
some
> money.

> Overall the MOMO has improved my lap times and control.  Actual feel,
> subjectively, is not as good.  Button placement, gear feeling, leather vs
> ***, etc, are the downsides.  I'm hoping in time I'll get used the
> differences.  From a reality standpoint, the cable drive in the original
is
> much more realistic, no matter how used you get to the MOMO, to the gear
> drive.



> > I have the original Logitech FF and was wondering if the new Momo
version
> > improves on the pedals or any of the the other functions?

> > Thanks,
> > Whodaguy

Andre Warrin

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Andre Warrin » Sat, 23 Feb 2002 17:55:48

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:43:41 GMT, "John Bowen"


>Formula Force, with cables rather than gears, was/is much smoother.  You can
>feel the gears in the MOMO; feeling a bit notchy.  The FF wheel did not feel
>that way.

True, but give the Momo a couple of racing hours to rub in. It gets
smoother then.

Have to disagree here, but there were different versions of the LWFF,
having a different quality of ff. The LWFF was smoother, but ff was
way weaker on my system.

Agree, the LWFF buttons were better. Especially the 2 bottom buttons
on the Momo can hardly be reached quickly without looking.

Matter of getting used to. For long races the Momo is really much more
comfortable than the LWFF.

Andre

Damien Smit

Opinons on Logitech Momo Wheel

by Damien Smit » Sat, 23 Feb 2002 21:03:17

The MOMO has much stronger force than the LWFF - but it's not needed IMO.
You have to turn it down to 20-30% in most games to avoid permanent injury.

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