rec.autos.simulators

It is not brown but Red - pedals looks great and feel great - wheel is nice
wrapped leather and looks like the old red LWFF (a lot lighter though)

Well I own the following wheels:

(1) Act Labs Force RS - and Shifter (Awaiting new perf clutch pedals this
week they ship supposedly)
(2) MSFF Wheel
(3) Two original Red LWFF wheels - thinking about doing the JS schumi Ball
bearing upgrade to one of them.
(4) CH Pedals

Quick opinion on the MOMO wheel: (I can post some pics this weekend on a
page)

(i) Pedals are a huge improvement over the earlier models (the head of the
pedals pivot on the shafts and the resistance is a nice balance I feel) -
THe metal plate under the feet is a great touch.

(ii) Wheel - Momo wheel looks great - leather wrapped black is great - I
prefer the shapre of the wheel over the Act Labs Wheel.

(iii) Motor system in the wheel - well not pulled apart yet but it is A LOT
lighter than the original LWFF however it is real smooth and I think gears
not cables.

All I have done so far is setup and install - no probs at all since I am
running 4.1 of Logi profiler.

Games ran so far : (30 mins each)

F1 2000 - great  feel - no ff back - game prob though - This wheel is great
for this game - better than the Act Labs as the wheel is not so notchy.
Nascar 4 - FF are spot on - pedals are very accurate and wheel is precise

So far I am glad I purchased it - keep an eye out for it.  If it was $149.00
it would be a great deal.

Brad

I find the resistance of the new pedals impressive as well.

Just played about 7 of the Nascar Heat mods and had a blast, especially the
GT40.

GPL is now loading up............

late night ahead

Imho they don't have more travel - but because they are much more
precise, better resistance and the tilting of the pedals, they are SO
much better than the original pedals. I ditched my CH pedals for them
:)

Andre

That's encouraging - no squash ball needed?

Andre

The pedals seems to be slightly better than my old LWFF but the
squash ball is such a huge improvement I just can't do without
it anymore. A pressure sensitive brake pedal makes breaking in
GPL _easy_. I don't believe any primarily position sensitive
brake ever can achieve that, no matter how good it is.

(The trick with the squash ball is to choose the ball and
calibrate the brakes so that range of movement where the
brakes start to lock up also is just where you really have
to push *** the brake to move it further. This allows
you to just hit the brake pedal when its time to slow down.
You still have the ability to break more or less if the
situation requires, but since a relatively large difference
in force is needed to move the pedal more or less,
controlling the braking becomes a piece of cake.)

      _
Mats Lofkvist

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Andre

I just spent an hour driving the BRM at the 'ring and actually
enjoyed it :-), that tells a lot about how good this wheel is even
with the current force feedback problems.

(Can't wait until the spiking and missing forces issues are fixed,
the responses from Logitech at
<http://www.wingmanteam.com/discus/messages/3/842.html?>
looks like they are working on it.)

      _
Mats Lofkvist

message

have any more travel

--
Joe Marques

I hope so...I recieved my new Momo force today and I'm not happy with it at
all. The spiking problem in GPL makes it undriveable for me. The wheel works
great with the other games I've tried, NFSPU, Colin McRae and GP3. In fact,
as far a GP3 is concerned, the Momo Force is a huge improvement, but GPL is
what I drive every day and it's just not possible with this wheel.

--
don
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