Thanks.
I woudl give more info.. but he pub is calling!!
Drinking not drivin tonight :-)
Steve
Marc
I agree completely. I had a TM F1 FF for about 3 weeks, but the throttle
pedal broke & I swapped it for a Momo Force (Red one).
The TM wheel was well built & sturdy, the pedals had decent travel but were
a little too heavy for my taste, and as it turned out, the base was flexing
under the pressure & eventually (after 3 weeks) broke.
In comparison the Momo feels similarly well built, but the paddles are
separate and I preferred the single bar of the TM wheel. The FF on the TM
wheel was pretty good, but the Momo is far superior imo & much quieter too.
The pedals aren't as well positioned as the TM ones, but the springs are a
better weighted imo and the travel is long enough for me.
The TM software just plain sucked though, it was really crap, crashed alot,
and the setting for split-axis pedals is buried in the profiler, so you have
to set up a profile for every game. The Logitech software is much more
friendly, the split-axis selection is universal too, so if like me you don't
use profiles, it's alot easier to set up for several games.
I've had the Momo for several weeks now, and it's proved to be reliable,
stable & solid. My only gripe (apart from the paddles) is that the desk
locking mechanism doesn't look like it will last more than a year or so, but
the TM F1 FF felt no better to me.
Malc.
> I agree completely. I had a TM F1 FF for about 3 weeks, but the throttle
> pedal broke & I swapped it for a Momo Force (Red one).
> The TM wheel was well built & sturdy, the pedals had decent travel but
were
> a little too heavy for my taste, and as it turned out, the base was
flexing
> under the pressure & eventually (after 3 weeks) broke.
> In comparison the Momo feels similarly well built, but the paddles are
> separate and I preferred the single bar of the TM wheel. The FF on the TM
> wheel was pretty good, but the Momo is far superior imo & much quieter
too.
> The pedals aren't as well positioned as the TM ones, but the springs are a
> better weighted imo and the travel is long enough for me.
> The TM software just plain sucked though, it was really crap, crashed
'alot' is not a word. What you mean is 'a lot'.
'a lot' is where I would put a-lot of apartments or cars.
dave henrie
> > The TM software just plain sucked though, it was really crap, crashed
> alot,
> 'alot' is not a word. What you mean is 'a lot'.
Malc.
Ex Guillemot/Thrustmaster/Hercules worker
> Marc
> > I have had the Ferrari wheel for some time, and I've always liked it.
> > However, I've gotten a new desk, and the Guillemot's clamping system is
> > sort of a pain on the new desk. I can make it work, but it is annoying
> > and time consuming. The Logitech MOMO Force seems to have a clamp better
> > suited for what I need. Has anyone used both of these wheels? Is the
> > MOMO the equal of the older Ferrari wheel? I wouldn't want to trade
> > down.
> > Thanks.
Sure the pedals are getting a bit wierd and some buttons don't work unless
the wheel is not turned... and it's making soft moaning noises now like it
really want to be retired. But it's my companion dammit, I have never owned
any other wheel, this one has followed me from my first small steps in
simracing, up until my current status as a veteran driver in several
different sims.
Hi my name is Mikkel and I'm a Guillemotoholic.....
If anyone has a new or almost new Guillemot Ferrari FF I'll be happy to buy.
I wanna make a huge pile of them so I never have to drive using anything
else ;)
Mikkel
> Ex Guillemot/Thrustmaster/Hercules worker
> > Marc
> > > I have had the Ferrari wheel for some time, and I've always liked it.
> > > However, I've gotten a new desk, and the Guillemot's clamping system
is
> > > sort of a pain on the new desk. I can make it work, but it is annoying
> > > and time consuming. The Logitech MOMO Force seems to have a clamp
better
> > > suited for what I need. Has anyone used both of these wheels? Is the
> > > MOMO the equal of the older Ferrari wheel? I wouldn't want to trade
> > > down.
> > > Thanks.
> Sure the pedals are getting a bit wierd and some buttons don't work unless
> the wheel is not turned... and it's making soft moaning noises now like it
> really want to be retired. But it's my companion dammit, I have never
owned
> any other wheel, this one has followed me from my first small steps in
> simracing, up until my current status as a veteran driver in several
> different sims.
> Hi my name is Mikkel and I'm a Guillemotoholic.....
> If anyone has a new or almost new Guillemot Ferrari FF I'll be happy to
buy.
> I wanna make a huge pile of them so I never have to drive using anything
> else ;)
> Mikkel
> > Saw your post, honestly, i wouldn't touch
> > Thrustmaster/Hercules/Guillemot anymore. The company is about to
> > close. I used t work for them, about a month ago, they laid everybody
> > off from North America, and the rest of the world also. They kept a
> > couple of people to "finish off projects" to be released and generate
> > that extra cash. There are no testers, no new drivers will be released
> > for any of the products. Support is hardly any, there are two people
> > to do support/RMA's for the WHOLE WORLD. They changed their contact
> > information, try to find it. They make you have to register the
> > product, then you get the support phone numbers and support emails
> > addresses, but guess what, it doesn't work, that is because there is
> > no web team anymore. All in all by sept, Guillemot will be no
> > more,save yourself alot of headaches
> > Ex Guillemot/Thrustmaster/Hercules worker
> > > My previous wheel was the Guillemot Ferrari and now I have a MOMO
Force.
> No
> > > comparison. The MOMO is better in every regard. The software also
> actually
> > > works, unlike the Guillemot.
> > > Marc
> > > > I have had the Ferrari wheel for some time, and I've always liked
it.
> > > > However, I've gotten a new desk, and the Guillemot's clamping system
> is
> > > > sort of a pain on the new desk. I can make it work, but it is
annoying
> > > > and time consuming. The Logitech MOMO Force seems to have a clamp
> better
> > > > suited for what I need. Has anyone used both of these wheels? Is the
> > > > MOMO the equal of the older Ferrari wheel? I wouldn't want to trade
> > > > down.
> > > > Thanks.
Go for the leather Momo you won't regret it (and get hold of a GPL usb
shifter if you can)
Some Call Me Tim
TBW
I did the same upgrade almost 2 years ago when the momo first came out. My
Thrustmaste Ferrari FF had broken just about everything in 3 months of use.
My Momo is still perfect after almost 2 years of hard use, and has plenty
more life it in. I bought the Momo on the grounds of quality, and it paid
off.
The only adjustment needed on the momo was a tightening of all the screws
when it was about 2 months old. I understand that this is a common problem.
One***holding the motor to the wheel had come completely loose, so I
torqued up everything inside my wheel, and its still as tight as a drum now.
> TBW
