rec.autos.simulators

by **Andre Warring** » Mon, 22 Oct 2001 01:34:11

>> >I installed a squash ball in my new momo wheel only two days
>> >after I bought it :-)

>> Well I have to try it too then I guess :) did you tape the ball under
>> the pedal, or openend the pedalcase and inserted the ball in the case?

>I opened the case and just replaced the spring with the ball.
>No modifications to the case or pedal are necessary, the ball
>is fixed between the pedal and a small recess in the case meant
>to keep the original spring in place.

Hi Mats,

What type of squahsball did you use? I have one with a white dot on it
and no way it fits in the pedal case. I can barely close the case with
the squahball in it, have to use a lot of force getting the screws
back in, and when it's closed I can hardly press the braking pedal,
way too stiff.

Andre

by **Andre Warring** » Mon, 22 Oct 2001 02:31:42

On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:34:11 +0200, Andre Warringa

>What type of squahsball did you use? I have one with a white dot on it
>and no way it fits in the pedal case. I can barely close the case with
>the squahball in it, have to use a lot of force getting the screws
>back in, and when it's closed I can hardly press the braking pedal,
>way too stiff.

>Andre

Oh great, I can't seem to close the case anymore in a working way.. I
managed to close it after lots of trying, but then the pedals moved to
all sides, clearly the spring were not in place correct. Opened the
case again, noticed that I bend some things on the potmeters when I
closed the case.. how did you close the case with all the moving parts
inside that have to keep in place?

Andre

by **Andre Warring** » Mon, 22 Oct 2001 03:05:10

On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 19:31:42 +0200, Andre Warringa

>On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:34:11 +0200, Andre Warringa

>>What type of squahsball did you use? I have one with a white dot on it
>>and no way it fits in the pedal case. I can barely close the case with
>>the squahball in it, have to use a lot of force getting the screws
>>back in, and when it's closed I can hardly press the braking pedal,
>>way too stiff.

>>Andre

>Oh great, I can't seem to close the case anymore in a working way.. I
>managed to close it after lots of trying, but then the pedals moved to
>all sides, clearly the spring were not in place correct. Opened the
>case again, noticed that I bend some things on the potmeters when I
>closed the case.. how did you close the case with all the moving parts
>inside that have to keep in place?

>Andre

Ok, fixed it thanks to the vroc guys.. fastened all the cables inside
with tape and I had the pots in the wrong place, had to turn them 90
degrees, stupid me :-/

Andre

by **Andre Warring** » Mon, 22 Oct 2001 06:29:12

On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 20:05:10 +0200, Andre Warringa

>Ok, fixed it thanks to the vroc guys.. fastened all the cables inside
>with tape and I had the pots in the wrong place, had to turn them 90
>degrees, stupid me :-/

Ok after I figured out I made that stupid mistake with the pots, I
tried to insert the squashball again. This time it succeeded and the
braking is ***Y PERFECT!! I just tried GPL and GP3 and boyoboy the
braking is great now. It even feels like a real life braking pedal now
:)
But there is one problem.. In games where you can calibrate your
controllers (GP3 and GPL) it works perfect. But after replacing the
spring with the squashball, the calibration in Windows is not good
anymore. When I go to game controller properties, the brake is pressed
for 25% and if I push the pedal all the way it only goes to 75%.
In games than don't let you recalibrate (F1 2001 and Rally Trophy)
this is a major problem ofcourse..

Is there a way to override the auto-calibration of the Logitech
wheels?

Thanks again for the tip Mats, I've been messing a LOT with finding a
good braking pedal solution, and this is by far the best solution :)

Andre

by **Jaker Amje** » Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:27:17

Install Thrustmaster ProPanel (installs into Control Panel), this will
allow you to recalibrate the wheel and pedals to your liking.

Jaker Amjet

On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 23:29:12 +0200, Andre Warringa

>On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 20:05:10 +0200, Andre Warringa

>>Ok, fixed it thanks to the vroc guys.. fastened all the cables inside
>>with tape and I had the pots in the wrong place, had to turn them 90
>>degrees, stupid me :-/

>Ok after I figured out I made that stupid mistake with the pots, I
>tried to insert the squashball again. This time it succeeded and the
>braking is ***Y PERFECT!! I just tried GPL and GP3 and boyoboy the
>braking is great now. It even feels like a real life braking pedal now
>:)
>But there is one problem.. In games where you can calibrate your
>controllers (GP3 and GPL) it works perfect. But after replacing the
>spring with the squashball, the calibration in Windows is not good
>anymore. When I go to game controller properties, the brake is pressed
>for 25% and if I push the pedal all the way it only goes to 75%.
>In games than don't let you recalibrate (F1 2001 and Rally Trophy)
>this is a major problem ofcourse..

>Is there a way to override the auto-calibration of the Logitech
>wheels?

>Thanks again for the tip Mats, I've been messing a LOT with finding a
>good braking pedal solution, and this is by far the best solution :)

>Andre

by **Jaker Amje** » Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:36:23

Install Thrustmaster ProPanel, this will allow you yo calibrate your
wheel and pedal as you like.

Jaker

On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 23:29:12 +0200, Andre Warringa

>On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 20:05:10 +0200, Andre Warringa

>>Ok, fixed it thanks to the vroc guys.. fastened all the cables inside
>>with tape and I had the pots in the wrong place, had to turn them 90
>>degrees, stupid me :-/

>Ok after I figured out I made that stupid mistake with the pots, I
>tried to insert the squashball again. This time it succeeded and the
>braking is ***Y PERFECT!! I just tried GPL and GP3 and boyoboy the
>braking is great now. It even feels like a real life braking pedal now
>:)
>But there is one problem.. In games where you can calibrate your
>controllers (GP3 and GPL) it works perfect. But after replacing the
>spring with the squashball, the calibration in Windows is not good
>anymore. When I go to game controller properties, the brake is pressed
>for 25% and if I push the pedal all the way it only goes to 75%.
>In games than don't let you recalibrate (F1 2001 and Rally Trophy)
>this is a major problem ofcourse..

>Is there a way to override the auto-calibration of the Logitech
>wheels?

>Thanks again for the tip Mats, I've been messing a LOT with finding a
>good braking pedal solution, and this is by far the best solution :)

>Andre

by **Larr** » Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:31:51

I might have to get one of these...

At one time, I picked up a Logitech Force GP wheel, but felt that they had
dropped the quality immensely from the original Logitech FF wheel. I never
bought the original because I couldn't stand the pedals.

I've been using MSFFW's for several years. The wheel's are nice, but
Microsoft's SideWinder software is crud, and Microsoft hasn't shown much
interest in supporting it's users with useful software updates.

I thought about going with Act-Labs, but they can't be purchased in stores.
Big mistake. I've been burned by so many low-quality controllers that I
won't buy anything I can't touch and try first.

Finally, I really like Logitech's profiler software. It works. It makes
sense. It automatically moves the controller you choose to the first
controller slot in the system so it gets around the problem of games that
can't understand two controllers (or programmers that are too damned lazy)
properly.

This might be the one!

-Larry

by **Larr** » Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:34:39

Have you adjusted the FF settings in the core.ini file?

-Larry

> > (Can't wait until the spiking and missing forces issues are fixed,
> > the responses from Logitech at
> > <http://www.wingmanteam.com/discus/messages/3/842.html?>
> > looks like they are working on it.)

> I hope so...I recieved my new Momo force today and I'm not happy with it
at
> all. The spiking problem in GPL makes it undriveable for me. The wheel
works
> great with the other games I've tried, NFSPU, Colin McRae and GP3. In
fact,
> as far a GP3 is concerned, the Momo Force is a huge improvement, but GPL
is
> what I drive every day and it's just not possible with this wheel.

> --
> don
> -------------------------------------------------------
> BAPOM
> Alternative Program Covers for GPL
> http://www.trilon.com/bapom/

by **don hodgdo** » Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:16:24

Yes, continually since receiving the wheel.

don

by **Andre Warring** » Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:38:40

>Have you adjusted the FF settings in the core.ini file?

>-Larry

It's a bug in the newest Logi drivers (which are necessary for the
momo wheel) which cause the problems in GPL.
They're working on it..

Andre

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