where player can either be the "#" symbol along with the player's car
number, or the player's name.
Edlred have you changed the boss pw?
Please send me the new one.
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: Oh, by the way -
: Sean, when you're off the pace you really need to pick either a high or
low
: line. When Dan, Jan and I caught you near the end, your 'middle of the
road'
: method nearly caused a 4-car pileup...
: I also had two other occasions where taking avoiding actions for you put
me
: into the outside wall. Please try to do better... Thanks.
:
: Eldred
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Eldred,
We were near each other on the track quite a bit yesterday. I thought I
had done pretty well, especially considering my car had been used as a wall
buffer by several cars as the pack past me on two separate occasions. I do
always take the highline when being overtaken, though as I have said before,
i do make mistakes, I am new to this. You experienced drivers might want to
consider the cars on the outside when passing, I managed to stay on the lead
lap and quite racey till very near the end of the race. When the pack did
catch me and pass, my day was basically ended by lead pack cars bouncing me
off the wall as they passed, it is really a very wide track and there is no
reason to be that close to the outside wall passing traffic in the dogleg.
Save the passes for clean areas on the track. I have been ***ed out for
not paying attention to cars approaching and to use the F2+space combo, I
think that same applies to cars that are overtaking, please, please take
care to leave enough room on your outside to get past. I think most of the
drivers here could do well to remember that lifting is not a bad thing, and
that getting in line to pass traffic is much safer than continueing to fight
for a position at the risk of the rest of the field.
As for what I did after the damage. I reviewed my replay and found on
the restart on lap 72, that eldred and bfarmer (sorry, not sure of your
given name) were behind me, by several car lengths. I passed coorzman low
on the back stretch, moved high for my entry into the corner and then down
to the bottom around three into four. At this point (entry) Eldred you were
in my rearview mirror running into the highline but I had plenty of room to
move up as I exited four. I was running almost 180 and you were not gaining
on me much at all at that point, still, as I went toward the wall on my
exit, you did s***the wall and when you came off the wall continued on
down into the side of the 15 bfarmer car. I was simply running my line
ahead of you and you were clearly in my rearview mirror the whole time. I
had no expectations at that point that you were passing me. I did not see
the incident you refer to but I remember being around your group on the
previous restart and slowing then accelerating past all three of you as you
all seemed to have a very slow restart. I felt up to the point my aero was
ruined that I was every bit as fast as you guys and was racing all of you
for position. I will stand by the "rule" (?) that I am under no obligation
to move over and allow a pass for position.
Sorry to be so wordy here but I think I will need specific evidence that
I did something wrong here. I am very happy with the way I raced and my day
was ended by the actions of others and not through my own mistakes as has
been the case in the past. I am very capable of racing the high and low
lines at Daytona, I am able to change lines to avoid traffic and wrecks even
in the middle of corners without spinning or "losing it". I had no aids
turned on (autoclutch=on) and do not need aids at this track.
Having said all that, I did make a big mistake and need to apologize to
the 162 car(?). On one restart I had a pretty good head of steam up and the
cars ahead of me were a good bit slower, I dove low (wrong way) slowing fast
on the brakes but was going below the yellow line, I tried to stay above it
but the 162 was coming down as well to avoid a car outside and we touched,
my right front to his left rear, spinning him and he went off my front end
into the infield. Sorry bout that. On another restart Eldred was ahead of
me and slowed suddenly, I don't recall why but I shot down again ( gotta
learn to move up the track) and was black flagged for passing on the inside
on a restart. I feel that was a move to avoid an accident and I should not
have been black flagged, but I did pass to the inside. got lucky and served
it right before another yellow so did not lose a lap on the stop and go,
barely. :-)
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> Tim aka "blinky 2 car"
sorry for getting your name wrong (by pattern match ;-) and
thanks even more for your consideration!
Cheers,
Uwe
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Well I didn't save the replay so I'm not sure who it was but just after I
managed to pass Eldred and Jan I came up on a car that was WAY off the pace in
turn 2-3. I first started low and the slower car started down so I started
up...so did slower car..so I ended up in the wall whick of course let Eldred
and Jan fly back by. This has to be the incident that Eldred is referring to.
*IF* it was you Sean...I sure couldn't figure out which way you were going.
Seemed to be undecided. Next time just pick either high or low and the gaining
car will get around clean. Two decent races for me for a change...2 Daytona
Rascar races in two days...0 incidents!
As always thanks for hosting Eldred.
Dan
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>Multiplayer servers now have the option of allowing any connected user to
>call a poll to allowing them to vote on certain admin commands.
Eldred
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> We were near each other on the track quite a bit yesterday. I thought I
>had done pretty well, especially considering my car had been used as a wall
>buffer by several cars as the pack past me on two separate occasions. I do
>always take the highline when being overtaken, though as I have said before,
>i do make mistakes, I am new to this. You experienced drivers might want to
>consider the cars on the outside when passing, I managed to stay on the lead
>lap and quite racey till very near the end of the race. When the pack did
>catch me and pass, my day was basically ended by lead pack cars bouncing me
>off the wall as they passed, it is really a very wide track and there is no
>reason to be that close to the outside wall passing traffic in the dogleg.
>Save the passes for clean areas on the track. I have been ***ed out for
>not paying attention to cars approaching and to use the F2+space combo, I
>think that same applies to cars that are overtaking, please, please take
>care to leave enough room on your outside to get past. I think most of the
>drivers here could do well to remember that lifting is not a bad thing, and
>that getting in line to pass traffic is much safer than continueing to fight
>for a position at the risk of the rest of the field.
Such an attitude coming back...interesting. I understand that you're new at
this, and tempered my post because of that. I thought my original post was to
the point, and respectful. I don't feel you response was *either* of those.
No matter - you're entitled to state your case as you see fit. Be aware -
although I will not search out any mistakes that you may make, you will no
longer get the benefit of the doubt in any that you DO make. No quarter will
be given by me on the track as well.
I'm done with this discussion. Have a nice day.
Eldred
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: >: Oh, by the way -
: >: Sean, when you're off the pace you really need to pick either a high or
: >low
: >: line. When Dan, Jan and I caught you near the end, your 'middle of the
: >road'
: >: method nearly caused a 4-car pileup...
: >: I also had two other occasions where taking avoiding actions for you
put
: >me
: >: into the outside wall. Please try to do better... Thanks.
: >:
: >: Eldred
:
: Well I didn't save the replay so I'm not sure who it was but just after I
: managed to pass Eldred and Jan I came up on a car that was WAY off the
pace in
: turn 2-3. I first started low and the slower car started down so I started
: up...so did slower car..so I ended up in the wall whick of course let
Eldred
: and Jan fly back by. This has to be the incident that Eldred is referring
to.
: *IF* it was you Sean...I sure couldn't figure out which way you were
going.
: Seemed to be undecided. Next time just pick either high or low and the
gaining
: car will get around clean. Two decent races for me for a change...2
Daytona
: Rascar races in two days...0 incidents!
: As always thanks for hosting Eldred.
: Dan
That was me, this happened right after I had been pushed into the wall twice
and was still trying to get my head together and my car back under control.
I am sorry. I think it was lap 61.
I also have to rescind (sp?) my previous assertion that it was not my fault
I was lapped. My misfortune started when the 28 car wrecked. I was far
back with Eldred behind me. slowed a little for the wreck but the track
cleared and I kept going, then the 28 came unglued from the wall and down
the track, right where I had aimed :-( I really didn't have much choice as
Eldred was going high and my best option was to stay off the gas and pray,
didn't help! I pitted for repairs but I must have had some front end
damage. I Lost it coming out of four after the restart, accross the grass
into the inside wall, back onto the track and off the outside wall. After
that I was way off pace and the lead pack caught me pretty quick, that is
when I was pushed into the wall twice. Now both sides of my car are banged
up, all the way around really, thanks for setting damage to moderate (:-).
I kept going but was all over the track trying to get my line back, figure
out who was behind me and how damaged I was. there were about 10 pretty bad
laps for me there. Overall, I am still pretty happy with my racing. I kept
the same line throughout most of the race, not high and not low but fast.
Ask Larry, he was behind me for about 12 laps, with another 5 (?) cars
behind him, he kept looking high and low but just could not get beside me,
finally did though. Good Job Larry! Though if you had tucked in behind me
I think we could have caught the lead pack.
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:
: >Eldred,
: >
: > We were near each other on the track quite a bit yesterday. I
thought I
: >had done pretty well, especially considering my car had been used as a
wall
: >buffer by several cars as the pack past me on two separate occasions. I
do
: >always take the highline when being overtaken, though as I have said
before,
: >i do make mistakes, I am new to this. You experienced drivers might want
to
: >consider the cars on the outside when passing, I managed to stay on the
lead
: >lap and quite racey till very near the end of the race. When the pack
did
: >catch me and pass, my day was basically ended by lead pack cars bouncing
me
: >off the wall as they passed, it is really a very wide track and there is
no
: >reason to be that close to the outside wall passing traffic in the
dogleg.
: >Save the passes for clean areas on the track. I have been ***ed out
for
: >not paying attention to cars approaching and to use the F2+space combo, I
: >think that same applies to cars that are overtaking, please, please take
: >care to leave enough room on your outside to get past. I think most of
the
: >drivers here could do well to remember that lifting is not a bad thing,
and
: >that getting in line to pass traffic is much safer than continueing to
fight
: >for a position at the risk of the rest of the field.
:
: Um, we *were* in line - that's why our speed was much greater than yours
at
: that point. By you being in the middle of the track, that forced us in a
split
: second to decide which side to pass you on. As it turned out, one driver
went
: high, and the other two went low. And if I remember correctly, you were
at
: least a lap down at that point. If you weren't, then I'll concede the
'fight
: for position' angle.
The above point was to the lead pack of cars, not you guys.
:
: > Sorry to be so wordy here but I think I will need specific evidence
that
: >I did something wrong here. I am very happy with the way I raced and my
day
: >was ended by the actions of others and not through my own mistakes as has
: >been the case in the past. I am very capable of racing the high and low
: >lines at Daytona, I am able to change lines to avoid traffic and wrecks
even
: >in the middle of corners without spinning or "losing it". I had no aids
: >turned on (autoclutch=on) and do not need aids at this track.
:
: Such an attitude coming back...interesting. I understand that you're new
at
: this, and tempered my post because of that. I thought my original post
was to
: the point, and respectful. I don't feel you response was *either* of
those.
: No matter - you're entitled to state your case as you see fit. Be aware -
: although I will not search out any mistakes that you may make, you will no
: longer get the benefit of the doubt in any that you DO make. No quarter
will
: be given by me on the track as well.
: I'm done with this discussion. Have a nice day.
Hmm, where did the attitude come from? Maybe because of the races I have
run with this group I believe only one has not been followed by someone
saying I screwed up and telling me I cant drive or don't know the rules. I
have just watched the race for a second time and I will tell you that I did
a better job of passing and being passed than some of you *experienced*
drivers. This is not directed at you Eldred, I respect you and you drove a
very clean race. If anything I am wondering why you seemed to stay behind
me on 2 occasions where I lost significant speed briefly?
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No that was a seperate one, which wasn't all that dangerous... for us. <g>
Jan.
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I was on pole (had pole the night before in the practice race too) and felt
strong during the race, but unfortunately for the second race in a row I
finished up weak. Just couldn't make up those laps.
:-(
It was a good race though. Much, much better than our previous SS races.
David G Fisher
That's very probably true. Don't worry about it.
David G Fisher