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Next F1 sim?

Richard S Becket

Next F1 sim?

by Richard S Becket » Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:57:23

Has anyone got any info on when the next decent modern F1 sim is due?

Thanks.

S.

Ashley McConnel

Next F1 sim?

by Ashley McConnel » Thu, 05 Jun 2003 20:22:27



Hi Richard,

I think the new EA F1 sim is out towards the end of June.  Improved
multiplayer code and a little physics tweaking is involved as far as I know.

If the multiplayer has improved enough I think it'll be worth buying,
although I know there are alot of people who dont like the EA F1 series, so
it might not be your cup of tea.

All the best,
Ash
http://www.siroccoracing.com

Dave Henri

Next F1 sim?

by Dave Henri » Thu, 05 Jun 2003 23:02:03





>> Has anyone got any info on when the next decent modern F1 sim is due?

>> Thanks.

> Hi Richard,

> I think the new EA F1 sim is out towards the end of June.  Improved
> multiplayer code and a little physics tweaking is involved as far as I
> know.

> If the multiplayer has improved enough I think it'll be worth buying,
> although I know there are alot of people who dont like the EA F1
> series, so it might not be your cup of tea.

> All the best,
> Ash
> http://www.siroccoracing.com

   F1 77, GTR 2003, LeMans99, these are just a few of the upcomming mods
that will use the sim Ash talked about.  F1 Challenge or F1 Career
Challenge...I'm not sure of the offcial title.  Plenty of info about it at
BlackHole Motorsports.
   Geoff Crammond has backed away from anymore updates to the Grand Prix
Series, he's working on a new version of Stunt Car Racer.  UbiSoft's
unlicensed sim was never released in the USA.   As far as I know, the only
effort out there is the EA one, and that's sort of a summation of their
series, not a totally new effort.  After that, you have EA's 2nd Nascar
Thunder title, due in the fall of 03.  Papyrus has not yet announced their
next project, Monster Games Inc(Nascar Heat) seems to be concentrating on
consoles.
   Codemasters has an openwheeler based on the oval-only IRL league due
this year.  Some independants  that may happen are Live for Speed, West
Racing Legends, Netkar if and when these go retail is anybody's guess.  
   F1 got covered pretty heavily over the last few years, I suspect you
will see a lull in any more development.  After all, in the real world
there have been no major chassis/engine changes for almost a decade.  The
new rules would be the only major change for a sim-maker, and that may not
be enough to entice a new crop of buyers.  I guess it may be time for F1
fans to go stand in the same line as the CART Champcar, or Aussie V8
groups.
dave henrie
MadDAW

Next F1 sim?

by MadDAW » Thu, 05 Jun 2003 23:56:17

Dang, it doesn't sound to promising for the next few years unless Papy does
something cool.  Oh well my wallet will like it that way.

MadDAWG

Doug Elliso

Next F1 sim?

by Doug Elliso » Thu, 05 Jun 2003 23:56:38

Netkar isnt going to go retail. Ever.

Doug

Jason Moy

Next F1 sim?

by Jason Moy » Fri, 06 Jun 2003 00:57:51



F1 Challenge 99-02 is the PC title, F1 Career Challenge is the console
title.  I'm guessing the PC title was changed (originally I saw both
listed as Career Challenge) because it lacks a career mode.

Why do consoles always get management sims tacked onto their racers?
Doesn't it seem like something that would be better suited for the PC
crowd?

Jason

Gerry Aitke

Next F1 sim?

by Gerry Aitke » Fri, 06 Jun 2003 03:18:45



> reckoned:

>>F1 Challenge 99-02 is the PC title, F1 Career Challenge is the console
>>title.  I'm guessing the PC title was changed (originally I saw both
>>listed as Career Challenge) because it lacks a career mode.

>>Why do consoles always get management sims tacked onto their racers?
>>Doesn't it seem like something that would be better suited for the PC
>>crowd?

>>Jason

> Yea, really. I would probably be interested in the latest EA version
> if it did have a career mode. But because they are dropping that from
> the PC version they will get exactly $0.00 from me.

I'm gad they are dropping career mode, hope it allows them to put more
resources into multiplayer mode. Career mode holds no interest for me.
Racing (even sim racing) is all about racing a human opponents, and not
jerking off over some silly arcade like virtual career. Just MHO of course.

GDA

Larr

Next F1 sim?

by Larr » Fri, 06 Jun 2003 04:37:45

Hey, if they would clean up the controller code, and get rid of so damned
many and confusing controller setup screens, then IMHO it wouldn't be half
bad.

Larry




> > Has anyone got any info on when the next decent modern F1 sim is due?

> > Thanks.

> Hi Richard,

> I think the new EA F1 sim is out towards the end of June.  Improved
> multiplayer code and a little physics tweaking is involved as far as I
know.

> If the multiplayer has improved enough I think it'll be worth buying,
> although I know there are alot of people who dont like the EA F1 series,
so
> it might not be your cup of tea.

> All the best,
> Ash
> http://www.siroccoracing.com

Jason Moy

Next F1 sim?

by Jason Moy » Fri, 06 Jun 2003 06:07:07


>Hey, if they would clean up the controller code, and get rid of so damned
>many and confusing controller setup screens, then IMHO it wouldn't be half
>bad.

The controllers are pretty easy to setup if you use a wheel.

Set all the axis to 50%.
Set all the deadzones to 0%.
Turn off all the digital assists (speed-sensitive steering, etc).

The above is the same as setting a papy sim to 100% linear.

Jason

Gerry Aitke

Next F1 sim?

by Gerry Aitke » Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:47:48


> On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 19:18:45 +0100, Gerry Aitken

>>Just MHO of course.

> Which counts for shite, old chum.

To me career mode = all the best cars locked out until you've spent 20
hours racing crappy AI.

Well to each their own. Some people a too scared to race online in case
they get shouted at! I guess career mode is a blessing people who like
to play with themselves. :)

Redmis

Next F1 sim?

by Redmis » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 00:07:42

Of course you might want to turn on force feedback (and perhaps have to set
it to ?negative?) but even so, it's as easy as any other game out there....

Mitch_

Next F1 sim?

by Mitch_ » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 00:10:53

If it were ONLY a shout.  Be prepared for more whining and crying than youve
ever experienced in your life :)  Online racing actually is pretty crappy.
All it takes is a couple guys on 56k or a bad server and all hell will break
loose.  You suck...  You wrecked me...  THANKS!...  Learn to drive...  Cant
you see?...  Truth is 95% plus of the incidents look completely different in
each replay.  Hell Ive had guys screaming at me and I never even knew we
were near each other.  At least in Flight-Sims or FPS you can just get back
in and kill the mofo making yourself feel better ;)  In online racing you
spend days practicing just to get takin out on the first fn lap.  Not much
fun.

Mitch



> > On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 19:18:45 +0100, Gerry Aitken

> >>Just MHO of course.

> > Which counts for shite, old chum.

> To me career mode = all the best cars locked out until you've spent 20
> hours racing crappy AI.

> Well to each their own. Some people a too scared to race online in case
> they get shouted at! I guess career mode is a blessing people who like
> to play with themselves. :)

Mitch_

Next F1 sim?

by Mitch_ » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 00:27:09

The FF efects in F1-2002/GTR are the best Ive experienced.  Papy really
dropped the ball on this aspect.   The setup is easy although there are a
lot of options.  I don't get speed wobbles (oscillations) in GTR like I do
in N2k3.  Momo force BTW.

Mitch


Gerry Aitke

Next F1 sim?

by Gerry Aitke » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 00:38:44


> If it were ONLY a shout.  Be prepared for more whining and crying than youve
> ever experienced in your life :)  Online racing actually is pretty crappy.
> All it takes is a couple guys on 56k or a bad server and all hell will break
> loose.  You suck...  You wrecked me...  THANKS!...  Learn to drive...  Cant
> you see?...  Truth is 95% plus of the incidents look completely different in
> each replay.  Hell Ive had guys screaming at me and I never even knew we
> were near each other.  At least in Flight-Sims or FPS you can just get back
> in and kill the mofo making yourself feel better ;)  In online racing you
> spend days practicing just to get takin out on the first fn lap.  Not much
> fun.

Mitch

League racing is best.

Gerry

jbod

Next F1 sim?

by jbod » Sat, 07 Jun 2003 02:40:57

FWIW, Razorworks (the developers for "Total Immersion Racing") are
working on SOMETHING in the driving sim arena . . . I have no idea
what it's going to be, but it sounds like their next effort will be of
a *** sim product than TIR.

:-)

-- JCB






> >> Has anyone got any info on when the next decent modern F1 sim is due?

> >> Thanks.

> > Hi Richard,

> > I think the new EA F1 sim is out towards the end of June.  Improved
> > multiplayer code and a little physics tweaking is involved as far as I
> > know.

> > If the multiplayer has improved enough I think it'll be worth buying,
> > although I know there are alot of people who dont like the EA F1
> > series, so it might not be your cup of tea.

> > All the best,
> > Ash
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>    F1 77, GTR 2003, LeMans99, these are just a few of the upcomming mods
> that will use the sim Ash talked about.  F1 Challenge or F1 Career
> Challenge...I'm not sure of the offcial title.  Plenty of info about it at
> BlackHole Motorsports.
>    Geoff Crammond has backed away from anymore updates to the Grand Prix
> Series, he's working on a new version of Stunt Car Racer.  UbiSoft's
> unlicensed sim was never released in the USA.   As far as I know, the only
> effort out there is the EA one, and that's sort of a summation of their
> series, not a totally new effort.  After that, you have EA's 2nd Nascar
> Thunder title, due in the fall of 03.  Papyrus has not yet announced their
> next project, Monster Games Inc(Nascar Heat) seems to be concentrating on
> consoles.
>    Codemasters has an openwheeler based on the oval-only IRL league due
> this year.  Some independants  that may happen are Live for Speed, West
> Racing Legends, Netkar if and when these go retail is anybody's guess.  
>    F1 got covered pretty heavily over the last few years, I suspect you
> will see a lull in any more development.  After all, in the real world
> there have been no major chassis/engine changes for almost a decade.  The
> new rules would be the only major change for a sim-maker, and that may not
> be enough to entice a new crop of buyers.  I guess it may be time for F1
> fans to go stand in the same line as the CART Champcar, or Aussie V8
> groups.
> dave henrie


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