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WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

David L. Coo

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by David L. Coo » Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:28:20

I've been tweaking F1-2002 tonight (just picked it up).  I didn't have high
hopes for my old 1Ghz box.  I've tried every video card out there up to the
latest 128MB flavors but all of them went back to Best Buy except my Ti-200.
Most bang for the buck for me.  I got F1-2002 to average 36-40fps with other
cars on the track and full player car detail at 1280x1024 :)

The physics in this game ROCK.  Subtle little things I feel through force
feedback and see from the***pit definitely make this title a winner IMHO.
I tried GP4 and it doesn't even come close.  The only thing I liked about
that was when a tire or a wing came off it was an object you needed to
avoid - you couldn't just drive through them.  Anyways I deleted that one.

I figured out how to lose the arms.  Commented out those lines in the
f1car.gen file.  So far the only arms I've liked were in Rally Trophy.  I
wish I could get timing like with GPxPatch on my screen...

This is the first title I've been into for a long while.  Looks to be a lot
of fun!

- David Cook

David G Fishe

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by David G Fishe » Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:41:32

Don't forget to use the high physics rate.
Half Rate="0" // 0 = super-high physics rate, 1 = normal

Also, you can hit objects now in F12002.

David G Fisher



David L. Coo

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by David L. Coo » Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:51:57



Thanks!  I just changed the physics setting.  Didn't realize about the
objects!  Cool :)

- David Cook

David G Fishe

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by David G Fishe » Sun, 16 Jun 2002 18:16:32

I know you found it, but in case someone else reads this and wants to turn
it on too, the physics setting is in your plr file. Forgot to mention that
in my other post.





> > Don't forget to use the high physics rate.
> > Half Rate="0" // 0 = super-high physics rate, 1 = normal

> > Also, you can hit objects now in F12002.

> > David G Fisher

> Thanks!  I just changed the physics setting.  Didn't realize about the
> objects!  Cool :)

> - David Cook

<somecallme..

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by <somecallme.. » Sun, 16 Jun 2002 18:37:47



David,

I've got a similar sepc system, Celeron 900 overclocked to 1.2 GHz and
GeForce 4400Ti. What settings did you come up with? And is there an in game
FPS counter, I've just been using Fraps.

Some Call Me Tim

Phil Le

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by Phil Le » Sun, 16 Jun 2002 18:48:26


F1 2002 does have a framerate counter. Press Ctrl-F and wait a couple of
second for it to appear in the top right hand corner.

Phil
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David L. Coo

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by David L. Coo » Mon, 17 Jun 2002 11:13:15

I just achieved 40+fps at 1600x1200x16 and increased the values below to
Full Circuit Detail and Full Image Quality!  I didn't realize that Vertical
Sync is on by default.  Turn that thing OFF.  I got 10+ fps by doing that.
Can't do FSAA on my card though.  Even at 1024x768x16 with Quincunx Aliasing
my fps drops into the low 30's and sometimes 20's...

- David Cook

Andre Warring

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by Andre Warring » Mon, 17 Jun 2002 17:31:54



I have turned Vsync off in my GF2 properties in Windows. Is there any
other place where I also should turn it off? I'm having kinda crappy
framerates, with most details off I still get around 20fps during the
race..

P3 866mhz, 256mb, GF2 GTS, 12.41 drivers

Andre

David L. Coo

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by David L. Coo » Mon, 17 Jun 2002 21:14:18




> >I just achieved 40+fps at 1600x1200x16 and increased the values below to
> >Full Circuit Detail and Full Image Quality!  I didn't realize that
Vertical
> >Sync is on by default.  Turn that thing OFF.  I got 10+ fps by doing
that.
> >Can't do FSAA on my card though.  Even at 1024x768x16 with Quincunx
Aliasing
> >my fps drops into the low 30's and sometimes 20's...

> >- David Cook

> I have turned Vsync off in my GF2 properties in Windows. Is there any
> other place where I also should turn it off? I'm having kinda crappy
> framerates, with most details off I still get around 20fps during the
> race..

> P3 866mhz, 256mb, GF2 GTS, 12.41 drivers

> Andre

That's it - but make sure you are using 16-bit color in 3D Setup...
Andre Warring

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by Andre Warring » Tue, 18 Jun 2002 02:14:23



I have - is my 20fps normal for my system?

Andre

Haqsa

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by Haqsa » Tue, 18 Jun 2002 05:36:20

Depending on the track, I am getting anywhere from around 20 to the mid
30's at 1024x768x16 with a 950 mhz Celeron, 256 meg of RAM, and a 32 meg
DDR Radeon.  Since a GF2 should be faster than a Radeon in 16 bit color
I think you should be seeing higher speeds than that.




> >> P3 866mhz, 256mb, GF2 GTS, 12.41 drivers

> >> Andre

> >That's it - but make sure you are using 16-bit color in 3D Setup...

> I have - is my 20fps normal for my system?

> Andre

Joe6

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by Joe6 » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 02:03:40

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:41:32 GMT, "David G Fisher"


>Don't forget to use the high physics rate.
>Half Rate="0" // 0 = super-high physics rate, 1 = normal

Can you please explain what the difference is?
Ian

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by Ian » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:55:42

1/2 rate = 200hz game engine
Full rate = 400hz game engine
It just seems more responsive :)

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> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:41:32 GMT, "David G Fisher"

> >Don't forget to use the high physics rate.
> >Half Rate="0" // 0 = super-high physics rate, 1 = normal

> Can you please explain what the difference is?

Remco Moe

WOW - I see what you mean (F1-2002)

by Remco Moe » Wed, 19 Jun 2002 18:52:28


>1/2 rate = 200hz game engine
>Full rate = 400hz game engine
>It just seems more responsive :)

It does more as that. Try steering with locked front wheels
with the 200 hz setting. The wheels won't turn. They will with
the 400 hz setting.

Remco


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