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PC Gamer Review

M

PC Gamer Review

by M » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I haven't got the latest copy of the mag yet, but having become worried that
I might as well have pre-ordered Daiakatana or spent my 30 down the pub, I
emailed PC Gamer to see if the views on the net reflected their experiences.
The reply I got was:

"I wouldn't worry about the quality of pirate code. We've played the
finished
version and it's superb."

So, can I sleep easy now, safe in the knowledge that the W version is indeed
a beta version?

Or am I just kidding myself.....

Cheers,

M.

David Butte

PC Gamer Review

by David Butte » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00


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<snip>

Possibly. I've generally found PC Gamer to be the most reliable of the
UK PC magazines (remember PC Format's 90% for Le Mans 24 Hours?), and
they certainly seem to be the readiest to lay into a sub-standard game
- I can't think of any other mag that regularly gives sub-20% scores.

They also seem to be reasonably accurate when it comes to racing games.
As with most mags, they're overly biased toward FPS and RTS games, but
at least not to the exclusion of everything else.

As a final thought, what about PC *** World? They tend to have the
best sim specialists.
--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -2.05)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Jan Verschuere

PC Gamer Review

by Jan Verschuere » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I have serious doubts about these magazine reviewers when it comes to racing
sims. I believe Steve Hill of PCZone is sincere, I may not always agree, but
he gives an honest opinion. The others.... hmmm, pinch of salt.

Jan.
=---

Jay

PC Gamer Review

by Jay » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I used to subscribe to PC Gamer in the USA, but let my subscription run
out as they spent waaayy to much time on FPS, RTS and turn based
strategy games. When they do, do a racing/driving game review, it's
typically an Arcade title rather than a SIM.

Their hardware reviews are pretty good however, and ocassionaly Andy
Mahood will do a decent review of a racing sim, but he tends to let his
personal likes/dislikes of various forms of Auto Racing affect his
reviews, and therefore isn't a non-biased/impartial source for accurate
information.

I'm giving PC *** World a chance this summer, and so far have found
their reviews to be less biased and more fair/impartial. Also they
don't seem to spend 70% of the magazine on strategy games, 20% on first
person shooters and 10% for everything else like PC Lamer (woops I mean
Gamer:-)

JJ

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Kieran Larki

PC Gamer Review

by Kieran Larki » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

pc gamer gave le man a high score.

--
Kieran
www.pcracing.co.uk for GP3 and WSC



> > <snip>
> > >I emailed PC Gamer to see if the views on the net
> > >reflected their experiences. The reply I got was:

> > >"I wouldn't worry about the quality of pirate code. We've played the
> > >finished
> > >version and it's superb."

> > >So, can I sleep easy now[?]
> > <snip>

> > Possibly. I've generally found PC Gamer to be the most reliable of the
> > UK PC magazines (remember PC Format's 90% for Le Mans 24 Hours?), and
> > they certainly seem to be the readiest to lay into a sub-standard game
> > - I can't think of any other mag that regularly gives sub-20% scores.

> > They also seem to be reasonably accurate when it comes to racing games.
> > As with most mags, they're overly biased toward FPS and RTS games, but
> > at least not to the exclusion of everything else.

> > As a final thought, what about PC *** World? They tend to have the
> > best sim specialists.
> > --
> > David. (GPLRank handicap: -2.05)
> > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
> > really."
> > (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

> I do suggest you all save this message in case you are interested on
> rating the reliability of certain magazines.

> One way... or the other...

> -lark-

David Butte

PC Gamer Review

by David Butte » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Yes, but not a Gold Award. That's the difference - PC FOrmat and co are
far too ready to give 90%+.

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -2.05)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Kieran Larki

PC Gamer Review

by Kieran Larki » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

yes in pczone they seem to not like setting stuff up. they thought le man
was a hard realistic game! I brought it on this then I cried. what a foolish
person I had been.

--
Kieran
www.pcracing.co.uk for GP3 and WSC

Joona Vaini

PC Gamer Review

by Joona Vaini » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00



> <snip>
> >I emailed PC Gamer to see if the views on the net
> >reflected their experiences. The reply I got was:

> >"I wouldn't worry about the quality of pirate code. We've played the
> >finished
> >version and it's superb."

> >So, can I sleep easy now[?]
> <snip>

> Possibly. I've generally found PC Gamer to be the most reliable of the
> UK PC magazines (remember PC Format's 90% for Le Mans 24 Hours?), and
> they certainly seem to be the readiest to lay into a sub-standard game
> - I can't think of any other mag that regularly gives sub-20% scores.

> They also seem to be reasonably accurate when it comes to racing games.
> As with most mags, they're overly biased toward FPS and RTS games, but
> at least not to the exclusion of everything else.

> As a final thought, what about PC *** World? They tend to have the
> best sim specialists.
> --
> David. (GPLRank handicap: -2.05)
> "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
> really."
> (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

I do suggest you all save this message in case you are interested on
rating the reliability of certain magazines.

One way... or the other...

-lark-

Jan Verschuere

PC Gamer Review

by Jan Verschuere » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I think they find it "manly" to drive the car "as is". Either that or
they're just plain lazy. ;-)

Jan.
=---

Olav K. Malm

PC Gamer Review

by Olav K. Malm » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00


> I haven't got the latest copy of the mag yet, but having become worried that
> I might as well have pre-ordered Daiakatana or spent my 30 down the pub, I
> emailed PC Gamer to see if the views on the net reflected their experiences.
> The reply I got was:

> "I wouldn't worry about the quality of pirate code. We've played the
> finished
> version and it's superb."

> So, can I sleep easy now, safe in the knowledge that the W version is indeed
> a beta version?

> Or am I just kidding myself.....

I subscribe to PC Gamer UK, and for most of the times they get it
right with racing games. They put GPL on the front cover in 98 and
gave it 93 % (check out the review on :
http://www.racesimcentral.net/)

They called SCGT a game for *** racers only (80%), but gave F1
2000 something around 60. N3 got 28 % for reasons unknown, maybe the
reviewer didn't have a clue. I think they overrated Le Mans 24 hour a
bit.

On the GP3 issue, they have already made up their mind about how good
this game is going to be. It has already been on the cover once, and I
bet the next issue will be totally devoted to GP3 again.

I do hope the final release of GP3 is reported better here, or else i
will think twice before buying it (haven't downloaded it either).

--
Olav K. Malmin
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N..

PC Gamer Review

by N.. » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00


K. Malmin) thus spoke:

Well, that's a load of bullshit.

Deserves more than that. Maybe the reviewer tested it on a PC that
didn't have the muscle to run it and therefore decided it was ***
because he couldn't play it at 4fps. Hmm, sounds like most of the
people in RAS that don't like it either.

They just lost *all* credibility right there.

--
Nos

Olav K. Malm

PC Gamer Review

by Olav K. Malm » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00



> K. Malmin) thus spoke:

> >They called SCGT a game for *** racers only

> Well, that's a load of bullshit.

The definition of *** may differ. What we refer to as ***
will be from the common people plain lunacy.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, PCG use the whole scale when
reviewing games, so 60 % is pretty average.

I don't think so. It is perfectly human to find something totally
uninteresting, and i think the reviewer did with N3.

Read for yourself on www.pcgamer.co.uk. You can search for reviews of
all the games they have done.

--
Olav K. Malmin
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N..

PC Gamer Review

by N.. » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00


K. Malmin) thus spoke:

SCGT is quite accessible to all levels of players and not just the
fringe elements.

It's worthy of more than average. Especially considering the physics
engine is way above GP3.

A reviewer is supposed to be objective. If they are not then they are
in the wrong business. 28%?? pfffft!

--
Nos

Tony Whitle

PC Gamer Review

by Tony Whitle » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

We are talking about a UK magazine here (at the start of the thread at
least. I don't know whether there's a US version of the mag). Nascar racing
is a minority interest in the UK, and outside N. America generally AFAIK.
Hunting "sims" get close to zero scores over here too, they seem bizarre to
us.

Tony Whitley.


N..

PC Gamer Review

by N.. » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:43:35 +0100, "Tony Whitley" <t o n y . w h i t

Then they are not being objective. I've bought a number of import UK
mags and they were all frivilous lightweight reviews injected with
humour. Don't think this is a bias either.I am from the UK. BTW, none
of the hunting games have got stellar reviews here either.
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Nos


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