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F1 2000 should i buy it?

Don Burnett

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Don Burnett » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Well damn! :)

I stopped by Best Buy on the way home from work today and paid 39.99 for it.
EB was only 10 minutes away from Best Buy, only it's in the mall and I HATE
malls.
Aww heck, worth the extra 10 bucks to stay away from the mallies.

Don Burnette

mas..

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by mas.. » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00


>I have to disagree a bit. On my both machines (P200 and now PIII450) I
>had GP2 setup so that the occupancy was always below 100% which kept a
>consistent framerate. Only when things got realy hairy did the occupancy
>suffer.

Problem there is that you have to set details to the lowest common
denominator.  That is, you have to turn it down so you don't get a PO of
significantly greater than 100% at the one or two hairy parts of the course
(or start).  Then you suffer with less details for the rest of the race where
you otherwise could have had much higher detail if, IMHO, he made the "proper"
engine choice.  One solution is to just cut the detail level on-the-fly.

Yes in a way, but I still find it unacceptable. Sure, it is smoother allowing
easier control.  But it is also crawling along.  Real racing is somewhat about
timing.  A variable timeclock kills this.  One time through a turn, it is
fast, next when crowded, slow.  I've ranted on this subject for years, and
it really is manageable (though still a stooopid choice) so I'll take a
breather now :-)

Iain Mackenzi

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Iain Mackenzi » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I agree, weather is no big deal, and I don't think that some track
inaccuracy is either unless you have been used to driving the actual track!
Iain

ymenar

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by ymenar » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00


track!

Which is why I can't stand F1 2000 ;)

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Chris Bloo

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Chris Bloo » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00



>And why exactly do you think GP3 will be better? Because it
>is GP3????

Well IMHO GP2 is a far better sim than F1 2000.  The whole thing
just seems to be far more representative of Grand Prix racing.
It's hard to imagine that GP3 will be worse than GP2 so it
obviously will be better than F1 2000.

Chris

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Greg Cisk

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00



> > I agree, weather is no big deal, and I don't think that some track
> > inaccuracy is either unless you have been used to driving the actual
> track!

> Which is why I can't stand F1 2000 ;)

Right... I don't remember seeing you racing in F1 recently.
You are totally ***ing nuts with this track inaccuracy stuff.
The tracks are not that bad, certainly not like Road and Tracks
F1. In fact I think the tracks are much better than F1RS.

Wow.

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Greg Cisk

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Yeah, but it is still GP2... Just face it for whatever reason no new
modern F1 sim will satisfy you.

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Greg Cisk

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00


That is what I thought... You are just basicly a trouble maker.
F1 2000 is great and the tracks are not that bad. You are like
a troublesome incect now :-)

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Greg Cisk

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Absolutely. And GPL is awesome with FF. Just great. But I find that
I don't really play the game as the era just doesn't interest me, and
I am not into the tracks at all. I want modern F1 :-)

So GPL gets removed too...

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> Remco


> >I made a big deal when F1RS was released how I would not purchase
> >a F1 game unless it modeled weather. Know what? I never ran rain
> >races in F1RS, I always set it up for sunny days. So much for insisting
> >on having weather in F1 games :-)

Greg Cisk

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Wow. I didn't realize that. Too bad. I hope he gets it sorted out.

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Greg Cisk

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Absolutly not!! F1 racing is not only about timing (as Dave mentioned)
but about quick reflexes. Driving in slow-mo or super-slo-mo doesn't
cut it... And if GP3 has this type of engine design, then it will be the
first in the series to not get purchased by me. Heck, if past performance
is *ANY* indicator, I expect GP2 to totally suck online and have not
FF or 3D support. The engine sound should be cool though :-)

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Greg Cisk

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Dear David Ericson,

And exactly what questions do you have about my interpretation
of these posts with regards to GP3??? See below...

Regards,
Greg Cisko




> >And why exactly do you think GP3 will be better? Because it
> >is GP3????

> Well IMHO GP2 is a far better sim than F1 2000.  The whole thing
> just seems to be far more representative of Grand Prix racing.
> It's hard to imagine that GP3 will be worse than GP2 so it
> obviously will be better than F1 2000.

Sure thing pal, whatever you say. Oh boy.

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Greg Cisk

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00



It was his anticipation of GP3 coming out later this year. Like
GP3 is going to be something...

I think I read exactly what the poster intended me to read. F1 2000
will hold him over until GP3 comes out. I think just about everyone
got that much out of it.

Oh no!!! I hope you were not permanently damaged by my reply :-)

Don't worry about it, it won't be the last time :-)

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Greg Cisk

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00


I meant, I expect GP3 to totally suck online and have not
FF or 3D support. The engine sound should be cool though :-)

Obviously GP2 was a typo.

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Tracey A Mille

F1 2000 should i buy it?

by Tracey A Mille » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Frank is a trouble maker because he doesn't like the current crop of
F1 sims? If Papyrus didn't exist, would that make NASCAR 2000 a great
sim since it would be the best NASCAR sim by default?

Would CPR then be regarded as the definitive CART sim since ICR2 never
existed? Being the best of a sorry lot doesn't necessarily equate to
excellence.

F1 2000 is a somewhat entertaining racing game with decent physics,
but let's not put it on a pedestal just because there is a vacancy.




> > "Greg Cisko" <no.spam.email.for.me> wrote
> > > As far as I can remember you think every modern F1 title is bad.
> > > So after a while you are ignored :-) Exactly which F1 sims do
you
> > > like anyway?

> > I find satisfaction at no F1 title at the moment, actually.

> That is what I thought... You are just basicly a trouble maker.
> F1 2000 is great and the tracks are not that bad. You are like
> a troublesome incect now :-)

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