rec.autos.simulators

>>> That was my first good league race. Kyalami I was sooo bad. ;) I
>>> recall you were pretty damned fast!

>> I seem to remember I did pretty well at Rouen as well.  And looking it
>> up, it seems I actually won!  Even better than I remember :)
>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>> Those were the days :)

> Arne Martin! another name from the past. Actually Tim and I were
> discussing a race before UKGPL was a twinkle in anyone's eye :)

> This translates in to a $500+ plus racing game over a few years. It
> even more expensive when I factor in the cost of a divorce after
> my wife finds out I've spent over $500 for a single racing game.

> As little as $13 a month for a year subscription.  That's with limited
> content, though.  Additional cars will cost $15 and tracks will cost
> $15 to $25.

> Pat Dotson
> UltraForce Simulations LLC
> http://www.ultraforcesim.com

> Unfortunately I can't say which cars and tracks are out when, but I
> can tell you to expect more than one track - that one's for sure!
> Tracks often have more than one configuration also and you get all the
> configurations. For example there is one track known as an oval
> primarily that has the oval layout and three roadcourse layouts and
> you'd get all of them as a single track.

> Hope that helps.

> Tim

> There is a ton of rubbish being written about iRacing.

> If the pricing is too steep they won't reach the required volumes for
> viability. It is simple economics but the sim racing world has been
> doing its own thing developing add ons with no recourse to licensing or
> copyright for years since the big developers disappeared that there is
> an expectation that anything more than a one off $20 dollar outlay for
> several years entertainment is a rip off.

> iRacing is a wake up call and those who don't recall dial up bills for
> racing online and products with a short shelf life as bigger and better
> products from major developers came along don't seem to get it.

> Having a major developer with the financial acumen to develop the
> product and the foresight to move sim racing out of its little nerdy
> niche is a major opportunity IMHO.

> iRacing need to be commercially viable to push sim racing along just
> like the Boston Red Sox needed to be commercially viable to take on and
> beat the Yankees. It is not about John Henry simply pumping money in
> because he is a fellow sim enthusiast just as he is a Red Sox fan, it is
> about getting the infrastructure in place for sustainability and future
> growth. This seems to be beyond the sim racing for free attitude
> prevailing on RSC.

> Given the track record I believe they will get the sums right but it is
> a whole different model from existing titles, which is proving hard for
> many to get their heads around.

> Cheers
> Tony

> A little hint to iRacing :  When you publically start talking about
> subscription price and all, it would be also informative to start
> talking about your sim and it's features.  A weekly blog, each week
> just add a video, a couple of in-car screenshots, gameplay, etc...
> and start talking about the real reasons why you are promoting it as
> the end-of-it-all sim.  True physics talk, not PR bullshit, everything
> about gameplay, the game engine, multiplayer, tracks, cars, etc... Or
> else people start speculating and it's not good publicity.

> It's time you start promoting your sim.

> -- ymenard
> -- official

> Wow! What a sucker. And I suppose you're another one of those dorks that
> thinks GPL was realistic?

>> As little as $13 a month for a year subscription.  That's with limited
>> content, though.  Additional cars will cost $15 and tracks will cost
>> $15 to $25.

>> Pat Dotson
>> UltraForce Simulations LLC
>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>***them. They expect me to pay $20.00 just for a 30 day demo? I have to
> pay $20.00 to find out if it is worth paying a monthly fee or not? Don't
> think so.

>     I smell a DK Plot! :)