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USB with wheels - what's the advantage?

J

USB with wheels - what's the advantage?

by J » Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Hi all,

I'm proud owner of a Logitech FF wheel. After trying at serial AND USB
I cannot see any difference.

Isn't there any?

Jens

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Chris Schlette

USB with wheels - what's the advantage?

by Chris Schlette » Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Yes, lower over head for the USB connection as opposed to the serial.  Less
resource usage is always better, especially when it comes to GPL. :)  I'd
suggest personally upgrading the Logitech software to version 3.20 beta and
if you don't like the pedals its a pretty easy upgrade to add either T2 or
CHPedals to the unit, which I found to make it a better driving environment.


> Hi all,

> I'm proud owner of a Logitech FF wheel. After trying at serial AND USB
> I cannot see any difference.

> Isn't there any?

> Jens

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Brett Resch

USB with wheels - what's the advantage?

by Brett Resch » Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:00:00


>I'm proud owner of a Logitech FF wheel. After trying at serial AND USB
>I cannot see any difference.

>Isn't there any?

>Jens

Hi Jens,

It appears to me, from past discussion and from experience, that there
is an imperceptible performance hit when using the serial port versus
the usb.  I'm using the serial bus.

I switched back to Win95 after installing 98 and seeing a perceptible
performance loss -- not in games as much as running the OS and other
programs.  It felt sluggish compared to 95.

The deciding factor for me is that while there exists a difference in
performance in both cases, the difference in OS choice was a visible
one, while the difference in bus choice I could not see.

That said, usb is easier to work with, being hot-pluggable.  But since
my wheel is perpetually mounted on my desk <G>, that's not a big issue
for me.

Brett

Jo

USB with wheels - what's the advantage?

by Jo » Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:00:00


>I'm proud owner of a Logitech FF wheel. After trying at serial AND USB
>I cannot see any difference.

Yhere was a HUGE difference for me. The Logitech FF is the first
analog game device I've ever had that doesn't have calibration jitters
(outside of MS optical devices of course).

Joe

TToomm

USB with wheels - what's the advantage?

by TToomm » Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:00:00


I've been considering that combo, but thought there might be a problem plugging
a USB wheel into non-USB pedals.   I've heard CH Products is coming out with
USB pedals this summer and thought I'd wait.  I must have a misunderstanding.

Tom

Marc Collin

USB with wheels - what's the advantage?

by Marc Collin » Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:00:00

...but neither version of the Logi has calibration problems due to the
filtering process they use.  Did you get jitters on serial but not USB...or
the other way around?

Marc.



> >I'm proud owner of a Logitech FF wheel. After trying at serial AND USB
> >I cannot see any difference.

> Yhere was a HUGE difference for me. The Logitech FF is the first
> analog game device I've ever had that doesn't have calibration jitters
> (outside of MS optical devices of course).

> Joe

Chris Schlette

USB with wheels - what's the advantage?

by Chris Schlette » Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:00:00

misunderstanding.

You really can't plug in pedals into the LWFF.  What you have to do is open
the pedal case and pull the wires off the pots and replace the wires on the
appropriate pots inputs on your pedals of choice.  There was a good detailed
desc of doing this on gpl.gamestats.com/vroc

Jo

USB with wheels - what's the advantage?

by Jo » Tue, 20 Apr 1999 04:00:00


>...but neither version of the Logi has calibration problems due to the
>filtering process they use.  Did you get jitters on serial but not USB...or
>the other way around?

Never used the serial ... but had many problems with standard gameport
connections with many devices over the years. I suppose serial is
probably better than the gameport though.

Joe


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