Joe
>No, he made some good points. Flight sims have more operation of of
>complex systems in response to the environment. Driving sims have more
>of a millisecond-to-millisecond direct interaction with your physical
>environment. These both involve very different kinds of thinking and
>input to the game, so it's really obvious which one is "more".
>Joe
On Sat, 31 Jan 1998 22:25:09 -0500, "Phil Bower"
>I don't want to get off the beaten path with the direction of this message,
>but, I just wanted to tell you all that I'm proud to have started the
>longest thread I have EVER SEEN in a newsgroup. The nice part is that
>almost none of it has anthing to do with the original post.
>Happy typing everyone.
Interesting....let me add some thoughts here.
If you have long periods of rest in a flight sim its because your not
paying attention....and you are just about to get smoked...at least
combat sims. Su-27 Flanker in particular and Longbow2 as well...if you
are flying along with your head up your ass you will be restarting
shortly. Su-27 does not tolerate inattention.....and Longbow2 though
slightly more foregiving is quite deadly to the unwary....especially at
the hardest settings. But this really is not a fruitful area to compare
games.....workload.
Now when going fast on motorcycles and cars the mind is focused so well
indeed that I almost didnt realise how hard I was working. It just
flowed....(this is real life tm)....whereas in Combat flight sims your
not only flying the plane for all your worth but your sensing your
enviroment for all your worth...your monitoring your signature for all
your worth....and keeping tabs on other flights..and if you get in a
fight the workload goes even higher as you point out. The part you
missed was all the stuff prior and all of that goes into flying Combat
Sims at the highest levels.
Racing sims and Aerobatic Flying sims would be the best comparison as
both involve doing one thing exclusive of any other thing. This is not
to belittle either of these items...indeed I love to fly Su-27 solo in
Aerobatics...its almost my favorite thing to do these days as H2H has
lost some of the oooh gotta do that sort of feeling. Ive done it been
there got the T-shirt, mug, and got the Pink Plane....<VBG> I love doing
it because of being able to get lost in the concentration of flowing
into the next manuevers....this is much the same feeling I get when in
F1 Racing sim....
At the highest levels in Combat sims...your flying your ass off...and
then all of a sudden someone changes all the rules and your readjusting
everything....and then its ooooh nooo here comes a missile....then its
damn damn damn...gotta hit the target.....where is my ***ing
wingman....hey mofo get your ass in the fight.......shit he's
firing...damn damn damn....fun fun fun..but very different.
Now which has more workload....Combat Flight sims....
Does this matter....not a whit because its not a valid
comparison.....they both require different degree's of
concentration....both require full time paying attention.
PAPA DOC
Joe
Did you guys consider the Chipset on the motherboards.
Keep in mind that there is very seldom more than 1% difference in
motherboards with the same chipset, but could be monumental differences with
differering chipsets/io controllers.
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>The only thing I can think of is that you are in Canada :-) I have a
HOT-541
>mb which may not be that great. My vid card is a Diamond Stealth 3D
>3000 (4MB). My mb has 256k L2 cache with an extra 256k module
>like yours, so I have 512k L2 cache. I guess I have no clue why your PC
>benchmarks faster. It has to be the mb.
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>Header intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.
>I don't think it will greatly decrease the revenue of any sim producer if
he
>does _not_ participate in this forum.
Also, there's a lot of gibberish, and
No, I think there's more information than most people give credit for. It's
just a question of wanting to interpret it as a personal insult or a
customer whos money they have allready taken, genuinely wanting to see
improvements in the product they bought.
No, noone here has any divine grace. However, most of the people here DO
have more money to spend, and if a developer wants more of it, they had
better listen to the masses. OK. One person is a little miffed about
something, no big deal. Everyone on the newsgroup is pissed, that's a
different story.
As for the knowledge thing, there is not that much knowledge needed to
contribute very real opinions about a peice of software and new ways to
enhance it. As an example, I wrote several peices of software for a
company some time ago, that were used in a bunch of different areas of the
plant. It was a company with a lot of labor intense jobs that were occupied
by perhaps as many as a hundred, less fortunate or educated people. I'd say
that maybe 25% could not read or write. This place gave a 50c/Hr bonus each
week just for being on time for work each day. In any case, I set up a time
clock system which used bar coded credit card's i'll call, them for each
employee. I made all sorts of changes to the system after talking to some
mentaly retarded employees. (The company hired workers from a local "School
of Hope"). In fact, I even made changes to some of the production software
that they never came in contact with because of limitations of the people.
As for the timeclock, some of the people were not mentaly able to understand
instructions of running a card thru a slot. For them, I made cards that
could be oriented any of 8 ways and still be read. Frustrating? Sometimes.
But the bottom line is that the amount of information to be found on this
group is directly proportional to the developers desire to find information.
Sorry to disagree again.
You can say anything you like about me and I'll probably never care enough
raise an eyebrow. If the entire group says they agree, I'll probably look
for reasons they might see to agree. At no point will I stop participating
just because someone said something negative about me. My feelings won't be
hurt. I would guess that is why Jim S. Has posted in this thread so often.
Admitedly, his posts have mostly been directed to pointing out historical
facts or clearing up issues. In the long run, most of those posts will
probably end up as $ to Sierra.
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>>I don't want to get off the beaten path with the direction of this message,
>>but, I just wanted to tell you all that I'm proud to have started the
>>longest thread I have EVER SEEN in a newsgroup.
>Guess you haven't been following the "corruption at boot magazine"
>silliness.
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