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A world without GPL?????????

Byron Forbe

A world without GPL?????????

by Byron Forbe » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 05:33:12

    With rFactor now the most central part of sim racing, it seems to me
that one of the hurdles for it to overcome is convincing the public of the
authenticity of it's "Mods" - both the tracks and particularly the cars that
will be depicted via rFactor but created via 3rd parties. Will it be
perceived to be amatuerish, fake and even childish? Many claim to have zero
interest in "fantasy" tracks for eg. I guess different modders will end up
with different reputations with reguard to this as do different companies.

    A company like Papy would obtain licensing and from that be able to make
all sorts of claims as to the acuracy of tracks and physics engines,
claiming to have access to all sorts of data and working with all sorts of
people and race teams - impressive stuff. This can have a big psychlogical
effect on the average simmer with reguard to initial purchase and immersion.

    So here's the question - if GPL never existed (blasphemy - LOL), and
some modder for rFactor did a mod based on those cars and tracks, and the
cars and tracks were absolutely identical to those in GPL in every way, how
would the sim community react? Would it be too slippery, hopelessly
unrealistic and difficult. Or would it go on to become the classic GPL has
with a widespead cult following? :)

jason moye

A world without GPL?????????

by jason moye » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 05:46:13


> This can have a big psychlogical
> effect on the average simmer with reguard to initial purchase and immersion.

I buy sims in order to race cars I don't have access to on tracks I'd
like to drive but don't have the opportunity to.  Believability (as
opposed to realism, I'm not that much of a hardass) is possibly the #1
thing for me in a sim, maybe #2 behind my interest in the subject
matter.  My fantasy is to race a believable representation of a Lotus
79 around believable versions of Watkins Glen or Long Beach or
Zandvoort, not a fake car around a fake track.

I can understand people enjoying that tho, if they're more interested
in the competition than the 'fantasy simulation' aspect.

jason moye

A world without GPL?????????

by jason moye » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 05:48:13


>     So here's the question - if GPL never existed (blasphemy - LOL), and
> some modder for rFactor did a mod based on those cars and tracks, and the
> cars and tracks were absolutely identical to those in GPL in every way, how
> would the sim community react? Would it be too slippery, hopelessly
> unrealistic and difficult. Or would it go on to become the classic GPL has
> with a widespead cult following? :)

Since I didn't answer the question.  I don't think a sim like rFactor
would exist if it weren't for GPL.  It's sort of like asking if the
Beatles or Beethoven hadn't existed.
Alan Bernard

A world without GPL?????????

by Alan Bernard » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 07:04:41

I'm sleepy.

Alanb

Tony Rickar

A world without GPL?????????

by Tony Rickar » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:31:13


> I'm sleepy.

> Alanb

Your filter has failed you Alan :)
Alan Bernard

A world without GPL?????????

by Alan Bernard » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:59:24



>> I'm sleepy.

>> Alanb

> Your filter has failed you Alan :)

I know.  I think it now exudes some sort of sleeping agent.  :)

Alanb

Michael Sisso

A world without GPL?????????

by Michael Sisso » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:03:40



I'm Sneezy.

EldredP Bashful.

DaveH is Doc.

DaveGF is Dopey.

TonyR is Happy.

Mitch is Grumpy.

BruceK is Snow White.    <fluttering of eyelashes>

;)

MRSisson
--
LOAD "GPL",8

SEARCHING FOR GPL
LOADING
READY.
RUN

Bruc

A world without GPL?????????

by Bruc » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 13:07:06

LOL!! :)
Thank you, Mikey. :)

Bruce




> BruceK is Snow White.    <fluttering of eyelashes>

Dave Henri

A world without GPL?????????

by Dave Henri » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 13:41:18


> LOL!! :)
> Thank you, Mikey. :)

> Bruce




>> BruceK is Snow White.    <fluttering of eyelashes>

Darn,  I wanted to be Yoda.

dh

Mitch_

A world without GPL?????????

by Mitch_ » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 14:34:40

That's what happens when you never win a damn race (and been with the same
woman for 21 years).  Grrrrrr....  ;)

Mitch




>> I'm sleepy.

>> Alanb

> I'm Sneezy.

> EldredP Bashful.

> DaveH is Doc.

> DaveGF is Dopey.

> TonyR is Happy.

> Mitch is Grumpy.

> BruceK is Snow White.    <fluttering of eyelashes>

> ;)

> MRSisson
> --
> LOAD "GPL",8

> SEARCHING FOR GPL
> LOADING
> READY.
> RUN

Steve Whitt

A world without GPL?????????

by Steve Whitt » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 14:13:18



>> LOL!! :)
>> Thank you, Mikey. :)

>> Bruce




>>> BruceK is Snow White.    <fluttering of eyelashes>

> Darn,  I wanted to be Yoda.

> dh

hehe

now we know why you didn't get Yoda.

it should've read :

To be Yoda, I wanted, Darn!

:)

cheers

steve

Jan Verschuere

A world without GPL?????????

by Jan Verschuere » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:12:30

"Michael Sisson" ...

What the.... Mitch isn't nearly as grumpy as me!

Jan.
=---

Byron Forbe

A world without GPL?????????

by Byron Forbe » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 23:13:14





>>> LOL!! :)
>>> Thank you, Mikey. :)

>>> Bruce




>>>> BruceK is Snow White.    <fluttering of eyelashes>

>> Darn,  I wanted to be Yoda.

>> dh
> hehe

> now we know why you didn't get Yoda.

> it should've read :

> To be Yoda, I wanted, Darn!

> :)

> cheers

> steve

    LOL - I saw the replies and thought "that got 'em talking" only to
realise I'd sent them to sleep! :)
mcewen

A world without GPL?????????

by mcewen » Sat, 01 Oct 2005 23:51:29

Because it's the newest?

Mitch_

A world without GPL?????????

by Mitch_ » Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:21:12

Hell, what about Simmon's?  He is the king of grumps ;)

Hey man, I finally won something dont take that away from me now :))



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