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(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

TRUSRS

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by TRUSRS » Mon, 29 May 2000 04:00:00

faaaaaaaake
lol
tamp

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by tamp » Mon, 29 May 2000 04:00:00

I've never heard anyone mention anything about this, but at lots of races
now there are computer-generated sponor ads they put on the grass, and i
think today, on what looks like a sign. It's in turn 4 that you can only see
from the frontstretch camera. It's on a pole that comes out of its side and
bends down to the ground. It has a really fake-looking shadow and at first
it said "Northern Lights" and right now it says "Indy 500." Has anyone
noticed this? Is it real or fake? Where can i get more info on this?
BriGu

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by BriGu » Mon, 29 May 2000 04:00:00


I thought I noticed that, too.  If it's not fake (the shadow makes it a
virtual certainty), then it's an engineering marvel.  It didn't appear to
have enough structural balance to stay upright.  It starts at the ground
and curves immediately away, with all the weight hung over to one side -
no way it'd stay up.  

--


Michael Youn

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by Michael Youn » Mon, 29 May 2000 04:00:00

Although it's not my habit, I noticed in some football games this past
season that they were "painting" the first down line on the screen. Neat
trick. I presume it operates very much like the blue-screen backgrounds the
weather man uses. Football fields, being relatively flat, would be easy to
paint on. I suppose the only limitation is they have a good digital model of
the surface they wrap the "textures" on. That plus knowing where the camera
is located relative to the surface. What a wonderfully simple idea; I'll bet
someone got very rich dreaming that one up.

Michael.



> > I've never heard anyone mention anything about this, but at lots of
races
> > now there are computer-generated sponor ads they put on the grass, and i
> > think today, on what looks like a sign. It's in turn 4 that you can only
see
> > from the frontstretch camera. It's on a pole that comes out of its side
and
> > bends down to the ground. It has a really fake-looking shadow and at
first
> > it said "Northern Lights" and right now it says "Indy 500." Has anyone
> > noticed this? Is it real or fake? Where can i get more info on this?

> I thought I noticed that, too.  If it's not fake (the shadow makes it a
> virtual certainty), then it's an engineering marvel.  It didn't appear to
> have enough structural balance to stay upright.  It starts at the ground
> and curves immediately away, with all the weight hung over to one side -
> no way it'd stay up.

> --



daxe

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by daxe » Mon, 29 May 2000 04:00:00


Here is a link to the company that created this.

http://www.sportvision.com/

There is a pretty good technical explanation if you click the "1st & Ten
Yellow Line" link to the right of the opening page.

~daxe

The Black Cat =^..^

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by The Black Cat =^..^ » Mon, 29 May 2000 04:00:00



Yeah, it's fake.  At the earlier IRL race at Phoenix, they had another
of those computer generated things on a hillside.  The past couple
years they've had a phoney sponsor message on the grass in one of the
turns.  

The series already has no credibility and now they damage themselves
further with garbage like that...

Davi

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by Davi » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00

> I thought I noticed that, too.  If it's not fake (the shadow makes it a
> virtual certainty), then it's an engineering marvel.  It didn't appear to
> have enough structural balance to stay upright.  It starts at the ground
> and curves immediately away, with all the weight hung over to one side -
> no way it'd stay up.  

> --



You dig a really deep hole.

Dave

Dave Henri

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by Dave Henri » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00

  This is an idea Uncle Bernie has been looking at for F1.  All the cars
would be painted GREEN and any sort of liveries could be pasted on them
real time during a race.  The benefits are for the countries that don't
allow Ciggarrette adds.  Teams or probably Unckle Bernie himself would
sell the cars on a race by race basis.  I had heard the technical
challenges at this time were too difficult, but it probably will be the
wave of the future some day.
dave henrie  

> I've never heard anyone mention anything about this, but at lots of races
> now there are computer-generated sponor ads they put on the grass, and i
> think today, on what looks like a sign. It's in turn 4 that you can only see
> from the frontstretch camera. It's on a pole that comes out of its side and
> bends down to the ground. It has a really fake-looking shadow and at first
> it said "Northern Lights" and right now it says "Indy 500." Has anyone
> noticed this? Is it real or fake? Where can i get more info on this?

David Butte

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by David Butte » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00


They've started using it here in the UK too for football (ie soccer). On the FA
Cup Final programme (20th May) a "virtual circle" white line was used to mark
ten yards from the ball (the distance defenders must retreat) for a free kick.

Same in the UK. More weather here, though less severe on the whole...

--
David.
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Todd Walk

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by Todd Walk » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00

Why do you say it is garbage? They have the technology to do it, and
it is a lot cheaper than a real billboard, so what is the harm? I
personally don't see anything wrong with it....

TW

On Sun, 28 May 2000 23:03:31 -0500, The Black Cat  =^..^=




>> It starts at the ground
>>and curves immediately away, with all the weight hung over to one side -
>>no way it'd stay up.  

>Yeah, it's fake.  At the earlier IRL race at Phoenix, they had another
>of those computer generated things on a hillside.  The past couple
>years they've had a phoney sponsor message on the grass in one of the
>turns.  

>The series already has no credibility and now they damage themselves
>further with garbage like that...

Todd Walker
twalker294 at earthlink.net
rrevve

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by rrevve » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00


>  This is an idea Uncle Bernie has been looking at for F1.  All the cars
>would be painted GREEN and any sort of liveries could be pasted on them
>real time during a race.

Scrolling ads. Like the Goodyear blimp!
m.seer

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by m.seer » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00

There was talk about the tobacco companies using these fake signs in F1 to
resolve the conflict. By doing this, countries where cigarette advertising
was banned would see an alternative advert whilst the rest of the world
would get the word.....

MS



> >Although it's not my habit, I noticed in some football games this
> >past season that they were "painting" the first down line on the
> >screen. Neat trick.

> They've started using it here in the UK too for football (ie soccer). On
the FA
> Cup Final programme (20th May) a "virtual circle" white line was used to
mark
> ten yards from the ball (the distance defenders must retreat) for a free
kick.

> >I presume it operates very much like the
> >blue-screen backgrounds the weather man uses.

> Same in the UK. More weather here, though less severe on the whole...

> --
> David.
> "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really."
> (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

m.seer

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by m.seer » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00

Any less credability than F1 where real signs fell onto the pitstraight on
top of cars doing 180 mph. Ask Jean Alesi what he thinks.......

MS

Gregor Vebl

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by Gregor Vebl » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00


>   This is an idea Uncle Bernie has been looking at for F1.  All the cars
> would be painted GREEN and any sort of liveries could be pasted on them
> real time during a race.  The benefits are for the countries that don't
> allow Ciggarrette adds.  Teams or probably Unckle Bernie himself would
> sell the cars on a race by race basis.  I had heard the technical
> challenges at this time were too difficult, but it probably will be the
> wave of the future some day.
> dave henrie

And yes, it's Schumacher in a green car followed by Hakkinen, also in a
green car. In the meanwhile, three green cars are battling for the 5th
place 30 seconds behind.

What about the race spectators?

-Gregor

Jan Verschuere

(OT) Is that sign at the Indy 500 fake?

by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00

Has the FIA showed any consideration for them in the past?

To loosely quote Max Mosely in a Eurosport interview: "With world wide TV
audiences providing the bulk of the following for F1 and the main target of
it's advertisers, the actual location of a GP doesn't really matter
anymore."

He was talking about moving away from European circuits with reference to
the tabacco issue, but it also indicates they haven't given a passing
thought to the fan that actually go to see the races.

Jan.
=---

Gregor Veble wrote...

> <snip>
> And yes, it's Schumacher in a green car followed by Hakkinen, also in a
> green car. In the meanwhile, three green cars are battling for the 5th
> place 30 seconds behind.

> What about the race spectators?

> -Gregor


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