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OT: Indy 500

Scott B. Huste

OT: Indy 500

by Scott B. Huste » Mon, 29 May 2000 04:00:00

I heard the Indy 500 was running today but I turned on my TV and went to
COMEDY CENTRAL and I couldn't find the "race"?

<VBG>  ;)

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Target

OT: Indy 500

by Target » Mon, 29 May 2000 04:00:00

It's running now on ABC
Racer X
Veteran Sim Racer
#4 Corvette C5-R in the GTIC
#24 Monte Carlo in the DORL
Victory Lane-
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/
Davi

OT: Indy 500

by Davi » Mon, 29 May 2000 04:00:00

Well its over and Tony George must be ticked off.  Juan and Team Target
showed the IRL that they are truely second to CART, CART drivers and CART
teams.  Wonder what Tony is gonna do next year to make sure another CART
team does not come out and beat up on his little league.

Loved watching every lap Juan Led, tho ABC did not show much of it, wonder
why.

Dave



Target

OT: Indy 500

by Target » Mon, 29 May 2000 04:00:00

Yep.  I would of rather see Jimmy Vasser win it though.
Racer X
Veteran Sim Racer
#4 Corvette C5-R in the GTIC
#24 Monte Carlo in the DORL
Victory Lane-
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/
Greg Cisk

OT: Indy 500

by Greg Cisk » Mon, 29 May 2000 04:00:00


Yeah. It seemed much like the WInston cup drivers competing in the
Busch races...

I noticed that too. I would not be surprised to find that ABC had strict
instructions to just showcase the IRL drivers. They did should enough
of Montoya and Vasser though IMHO.

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> Dave



> > It's running now on ABC
> > Racer X
> > Veteran Sim Racer
> > #4 Corvette C5-R in the GTIC
> > #24 Monte Carlo in the DORL
> > Victory Lane-
> > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/

Schlom

OT: Indy 500

by Schlom » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00

Bull...the way I see it is Montoya and Ganassi are right now the best
combination in Open Wheel racing.  The fact he won the Indy500 doesnt mean CART
is better than the IRL or that the drivers are more talented.  If you think for
a while you may remember Gurerro, Bosel, Unser Jr., Lazier, Goodyear, and
Luyendyk were all succesful to varying degrees in CART before the IRL was
formed.  They're not exactly dominating the IRL now are they?  Now I realize
these guys werent the best in CART (though Unser Jr. was a champion) but that
doesnt mean CART a a whole is superior to the IRL.  I would have to say theyre
about even in the talent pool...they have *** drivers and not so ***
drivers.  So to say CART is better than IRL isnt fair...theyre totally
different types of racing.  I enjoy both and dont miss CART at Indy one bit...I
still see very entertaining races there and this year was really no exception.
Just putting my 2 cents in...no offense to anyone cause your certianly entitled
to your own opinion.

Chris

mas..

OT: Indy 500

by mas.. » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00


>Bull...the way I see it is Montoya and Ganassi are right now the best
>combination in Open Wheel racing.

Have we forgotten F1?  And anyway, Ganassi isn't dominating CART this year.  
Nor is Montoya.

True ... on its own ...

Since it is hard for any but an expert (of which I'm not) to look at a car
going down the track and say "driver A is better than B", I look at it by:

1) Seeing how a driver fairs in both
2) Does he move from one to the other when succesful (Brack) or when down and
out (Little Al).
3) Where the hot up and coming drivers choose to go (errr, F1 :-))

Hmm, open wheel, fairly similar power (okay, CART has some more), lots of
ovals (CART adds road and street courses on top of this), taken from the same
driver pool with a lot of names common to both in the past, as you mentioned.  
"Totally different"?  It would be hard to find many that are more similar than
that!

And you yours...
Listen, some may overstate the case, and this often causes others to just
respond in the contrary.  But do you seriously believe that (1) IRL is as good
in the driver pool as CART and (2) either compares to F1?  (hint on the
latter: who gets whose used up drivers, who gets whose champion who then fails
miserably?).

mas..

OT: Indy 500

by mas.. » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00


>Or, who gets the '95 CART champion, who then proceeds to win the
>Drivers Championship with Frank Williams' squad 2 years
>later............  

>There's always another spin to things.  :)

And no spin goes unspun here!

Yep, JV did win in both.  But it is hard to do state logically: JV wins in
CART, JV wins in F1, therefore CART>F1.   And I could point out how many pts
he won last year :-)  It is harder to figure F1 due to the extreme differences
in the competitiveness of the cars.

It took a good time for Mario to win his championship, while Michael (at peak
form) and Zanardi (ditto) washed out. Admittedly, they might have done a lot
better if given more time. Who knows, Zanardi might get another shot?  
Cheever, while he raced many years in F1, only managed 2 seconds in 132
starts.  It seems that most crossovers the other way have done better,
quicker.  And they seem to pick up the oval-thing quickly too.

Stephen Ferguso

OT: Indy 500

by Stephen Ferguso » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00

Just curious.  One of the "stories" for me this year would be Sarah Fisher.
There was no coverage of the race here in Switzerland, so could someone tell
me the details of her accident (cause, consequences?).

Surprisingly accident free race.  For so many cars running 500 miles at
average speeds above 200mph, that doesn't sound like a bunch of "amateurs".

Stephen

don hodgdo

OT: Indy 500

by don hodgdo » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00


> Sarah met the wall after the other chick pushed her there... no, three
> wide in to one of the turns. A mystery person on the inside, Sarah in
> the middle, and what's her face on the out side. The ladies had a coming
> together with themselves then the wall.
> Yaaa Montoya!!!


> > Just curious.  One of the "stories" for me this year would be Sarah
Fisher.
> > There was no coverage of the race here in Switzerland, so could someone
tell
> > me the details of her accident (cause, consequences?).

> > Surprisingly accident free race.  For so many cars running 500 miles at
> > average speeds above 200mph, that doesn't sound like a bunch of
"amateurs".

> > Stephen

The "mystery person" on the inside of Sarah was Jacques Lazier.
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Shaun Robinso

OT: Indy 500

by Shaun Robinso » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00

Sarah met the wall after the other chick pushed her there... no, three
wide in to one of the turns. A mystery person on the inside, Sarah in
the middle, and what's her face on the out side. The ladies had a coming
together with themselves then the wall.
Yaaa Montoya!!!

> Just curious.  One of the "stories" for me this year would be Sarah Fisher.
> There was no coverage of the race here in Switzerland, so could someone tell
> me the details of her accident (cause, consequences?).

> Surprisingly accident free race.  For so many cars running 500 miles at
> average speeds above 200mph, that doesn't sound like a bunch of "amateurs".

> Stephen

Greg Cisk

OT: Indy 500

by Greg Cisk » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00


Uh... Sarah pushed Lynn St. James into the wall... How is it
that you are confused about this?

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> wide in to one of the turns. A mystery person on the inside, Sarah in
> the middle, and what's her face on the out side. The ladies had a coming
> together with themselves then the wall.
> Yaaa Montoya!!!


> > Just curious.  One of the "stories" for me this year would be Sarah
Fisher.
> > There was no coverage of the race here in Switzerland, so could someone
tell
> > me the details of her accident (cause, consequences?).

> > Surprisingly accident free race.  For so many cars running 500 miles at
> > average speeds above 200mph, that doesn't sound like a bunch of
"amateurs".

> > Stephen

m.seer

OT: Indy 500

by m.seer » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00

She was doing her lipstick in her mirrors down the back straight. Lynne St
james was powdering her nose and dropped the compact. The resulting dust
cloud blinded Sarah, who was admiring her rouge anyway. To cut a long story
short, the medical centre was informed that two women had collided on track
and both were in need of cosmetic surgery.

MS


Shaun Robinso

OT: Indy 500

by Shaun Robinso » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00

I guess i was to busy thinking how cool it would be Montoya and Jimmy
would have 1-2'd. So from what i remembered the ladies collected
themselves, Sarah less so the Lynn.



> > Sarah met the wall after the other chick pushed her there... no, three

> Uh... Sarah pushed Lynn St. James into the wall... How is it
> that you are confused about this?

> --


> > wide in to one of the turns. A mystery person on the inside, Sarah in
> > the middle, and what's her face on the out side. The ladies had a coming
> > together with themselves then the wall.
> > Yaaa Montoya!!!


> > > Just curious.  One of the "stories" for me this year would be Sarah
> Fisher.
> > > There was no coverage of the race here in Switzerland, so could someone
> tell
> > > me the details of her accident (cause, consequences?).

> > > Surprisingly accident free race.  For so many cars running 500 miles at
> > > average speeds above 200mph, that doesn't sound like a bunch of
> "amateurs".

> > > Stephen

Greg Cisk

OT: Indy 500

by Greg Cisk » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00


Yes I agree, but it was Lynn that took the big crapola into the wall :-)
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> > > Sarah met the wall after the other chick pushed her there... no, three

> > Uh... Sarah pushed Lynn St. James into the wall... How is it
> > that you are confused about this?

> > --


> > > wide in to one of the turns. A mystery person on the inside, Sarah in
> > > the middle, and what's her face on the out side. The ladies had a
coming
> > > together with themselves then the wall.
> > > Yaaa Montoya!!!


> > > > Just curious.  One of the "stories" for me this year would be Sarah
> > Fisher.
> > > > There was no coverage of the race here in Switzerland, so could
someone
> > tell
> > > > me the details of her accident (cause, consequences?).

> > > > Surprisingly accident free race.  For so many cars running 500 miles
at
> > > > average speeds above 200mph, that doesn't sound like a bunch of
> > "amateurs".

> > > > Stephen


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