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by **Graeme Nas** » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00

Not just that, look out for the huge Virtual Screens that appear to rise
out of the top of the stand at each ground, to give information on the
players etc.

Sky Sports to cover F1? *Shudder*

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by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00

Well fortunately it won't happen for a while yet. But I'd think it
wouldn't be too different than trying to spot Schmacher or Barricello as
they flew past. Granted you know it's a Ferrari, but unless you spot
the helmet, you don't know which one...so a gaggle of green cars,
probably with a name or number painted white and not coverable by the
computer adds, would be how they attempt it.
dave henrie

> And yes, it's Schumacher in a green car followed by Hakkinen, also in a
> green car. In the meanwhile, three green cars are battling for the 5th
> place 30 seconds behind.

> What about the race spectators?

> -Gregor

by **gull-abl** » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00

I was sitting in the 4th turn.
There was no sign there.
Its computer generated.
I pointed it out to my brother and couldnt believe it.

by **Lee Mill** » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00

I worked for ESPN/ABC doing NASCAR races and a few Indy races while I
was in college. This was my specialty.....it simply a computer that
we can input graphics into and the computer will place them in a
defined area.

We can put it wherever...for example....in we have written Ping in the
grass on a long fairway shot on a golf broadcast.....

We can put adverti***ts between the goal posts of a football game
while the game is going on....and of course the virtual first down
marker.

During baseball game while in the "center field shot" looking toward
the pitcher and batter (the normal view) we can put adverti***ts on
the backstop and "flip" the ad over when he pitches to show the speed
of the pitch on the backstop. When it "flips" back over there's a new
ad where the old ad was.

The possibilities are endless. However, ABC is not really keen on
using it to it's full potential. Why? Because they feel it would
over-commericalize the games.....and thus turn away viewers.

Lee

On Sun, 28 May 2000 19:13:21 -0500, "Michael Young"

>Although it's not my habit, I noticed in some football games this past
>season that they were "painting" the first down line on the screen. Neat
>trick. I presume it operates very much like the blue-screen backgrounds the
>weather man uses. Football fields, being relatively flat, would be easy to
>paint on. I suppose the only limitation is they have a good digital model of
>the surface they wrap the "textures" on. That plus knowing where the camera
>is located relative to the surface. What a wonderfully simple idea; I'll bet
>someone got very rich dreaming that one up.

>Michael.

>> > I've never heard anyone mention anything about this, but at lots of
>races
>> > now there are computer-generated sponor ads they put on the grass, and i
>> > think today, on what looks like a sign. It's in turn 4 that you can only
>see
>> > from the frontstretch camera. It's on a pole that comes out of its side
>and
>> > bends down to the ground. It has a really fake-looking shadow and at
>first
>> > it said "Northern Lights" and right now it says "Indy 500." Has anyone
>> > noticed this? Is it real or fake? Where can i get more info on this?

>> I thought I noticed that, too. If it's not fake (the shadow makes it a
>> virtual certainty), then it's an engineering marvel. It didn't appear to
>> have enough structural balance to stay upright. It starts at the ground
>> and curves immediately away, with all the weight hung over to one side -
>> no way it'd stay up.

>> --

by **ymenar** » Tue, 30 May 2000 04:00:00

Why do you think Bernie want his car more slow each year? Fast cars make
for blurry advertising on the cars. Slow cars have a much more sharp allure
on television. It's a fact! It's the only reason why he keeps adding groove
on tyres. It's to make more money.

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by **m.seer** » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00

> > This is an idea Uncle Bernie has been looking at for F1. All the cars
> > would be painted GREEN and any sort of liveries could be pasted on them
> > real time during a race.

> Why do you think Bernie want his car more slow each year?

Because he is too old to drive fast anymore.

So a car doing 5 mph less and sliding around in corners, and running 2-5 mph
faster on straights owing to less rolling resistance will make for better
advertising?....Hmmm

MS

by **Greg Cisk** » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00

I saw it too. A few times it even had Montoya's picture on it.
A friend just stopped by to tell me he was at the race. He
said there was a bunch of Big Screen monitors on the track.
I figure these were installed for the F1 race since the Big
screen's are kind of standard in F1.

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by **ve..** » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00

technology to do it, and

Well, it comes down to whether you think live
event sports coverage is still journalism or is
it hucksterism. Even though everything is
sponsored these days, sports event coverage is
still, I hope, journalism.

I accept the premise that it is, and therefore I
am opposed to the billboard, because the fake
billboard displays something that appears to be
at the event, but is not visible to the fans
actually attending the race.

It is fake news. And it was poorly done too. If
they want to put up a real billboard at the track
that changes every five laps then fine, but they
should not fake one only for TV. And ABC, as the
carrier of the race, should not have allowed
themselves to be an accomplice in this
fabrication of the scenery of the track.

My 2 cents...

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by **Kai Fulle** » Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:00:00

yeah in a news paper you can't even flip the photograph and be ethically
respected. Why should television be held to lower standards? What happens
when they start fudging more important things?

> > Why do you say it is garbage? They have the
> technology to do it, and
> > it is a lot cheaper than a real billboard, so
> what is the harm? I
> > personally don't see anything wrong with it....

> > TW

> Well, it comes down to whether you think live
> event sports coverage is still journalism or is
> it hucksterism. Even though everything is
> sponsored these days, sports event coverage is
> still, I hope, journalism.

> I accept the premise that it is, and therefore I
> am opposed to the billboard, because the fake
> billboard displays something that appears to be
> at the event, but is not visible to the fans
> actually attending the race.

> It is fake news. And it was poorly done too. If
> they want to put up a real billboard at the track
> that changes every five laps then fine, but they
> should not fake one only for TV. And ABC, as the
> carrier of the race, should not have allowed
> themselves to be an accomplice in this
> fabrication of the scenery of the track.

> My 2 cents...

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

by **John Booke** » Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:00:00

And the track/promoters do not get the money for that sign going up...
Meaning the punters have to pay more to get in.

Book.

> > Why do you say it is garbage? They have the
> technology to do it, and
> > it is a lot cheaper than a real billboard, so
> what is the harm? I
> > personally don't see anything wrong with it....

> > TW

> Well, it comes down to whether you think live
> event sports coverage is still journalism or is
> it hucksterism. Even though everything is
> sponsored these days, sports event coverage is
> still, I hope, journalism.

> I accept the premise that it is, and therefore I
> am opposed to the billboard, because the fake
> billboard displays something that appears to be
> at the event, but is not visible to the fans
> actually attending the race.

> It is fake news. And it was poorly done too. If
> they want to put up a real billboard at the track
> that changes every five laps then fine, but they
> should not fake one only for TV. And ABC, as the
> carrier of the race, should not have allowed
> themselves to be an accomplice in this
> fabrication of the scenery of the track.

> My 2 cents...

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

by **Kevin Gavit** » Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Sports coverage hasn't been journalism for quite some time I'm afraid. You
can blame the lawyers of the league owners, sponsors, and the television
networks themselves. But it isn't journalism.

If it were journalism you could film the sporting event yourself and sell
your coverage and commentary. Try it and see what the lawyers say. It it
were journalism EVERY news orginization could cover it, instead of it being
sold to the single highest bidder. Journalism DEPENDS on multiple coverage.

It IS all sales, marketing, hype and hucksterism. Sports themselves are
nearly there as well. Give it a couple more years. Bernie's working on it.

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