rec.autos.simulators

> I've always wondered why some say this technique isn't realistic. I've even
> tried it myself in cars and carts (while I was still slender enough to drive
> carts fast <g>) and while I wasn't getting anywhere with it in 3-pedal cars,
> it worked well in carts. I've AAMOF always thought that _everybody_ is usung
> this technique, until I read about it allegedly being 'unrealistic' here.

> > An interesting German article, mentioning that Schumacher uses throttle
> and
> > brake at the same time. Particularly interesting for this particular
topic
> > are paragraphs 3,4 and 5.

> > Achim

> Very, VERY rough translation from Babelfish:

> (F1Total.com) - over the last years Michael Schumacher again and again
> proved its exception position in the formula 1. The Ferrari pilot belongs
to
> the best Formel-1-Fahrern of all times and not without reason, as the
> specialized magazine could point ' F1 out Racing ' now in a unique
analysis.
> One could show on the basis telemetry data of the Italian Formel-1-Teams,
> how the German deals unbelievably sensitivly and flexibly with gas and
brake
> pedal. Particularly impressing the comparison is on the basis the data of
> the 180-Kehre in Suzuka, a distance, on which Michael Schumacher exceeds
> again and again over itself. In principle Rubens Barrichellos style of
> driving affects compared with that one from Schumacher the telemetry data
> "simply" - "Rubinho" is now real no bad driver. The Brazilian rises before
> the curve 15 meters in former times to the brake and gives above all
either
> gas or brakes. With the world champion looks completely differently.
Michael
> Schumacher stops clearly longer fully on the gas than Barrichello, but
> begins it however before the actual "correct" braking for the hairpin
curve
> the car with an employment of the brake from only five per cent to to
> stabilize. In the curve goes to Barrichello fully from the gas, Schumacher
> gives however constantly gas and "plays" with brake and gas, in order to
get
> the car as fast and stably as possible around the curve. Even in the exit
of
> the curve Michael Schumacher uses the brake. While Rubens Barrichello
tries
> to prevent the car by removal of gas from breaking out the German gives
> substantially more gases and counterbalances its Ferrari with easy
braking.
> Alone in this curve is the champion 25 kilometers per hour faster on the
way
> than Barrichello, which loses 0.3 seconds. Apart from the fact that Rubens
> Barrichello brakes either or gives gas and quite frequently both pedals
> parallel uses Michael Schumacher in contrast to it, a further difference
is
> noticeable. Thus Schumacher applies brakes gently a curve mostly later and
> stabilizes the car, in which he gives further easily gas, what works at
> first sight counter productive, but but ensures that Schumacher can brake
> later, without control of his car to lose and cleanly give in can. While
> Rubens Barrichello applies brakes gently, speaks a curve nearly "linear"
> first strong pressure on the brake pedal constructs and this then
> continuously lowers, in order to avoid a blocking of the front wheels,
> Schumacher in the braking reduces briefly the brake pressure, in order to
> lend to the wheels again more adhesion. Thus Schumacher brings more in
into
> the hairpin curve of Montreal with 15 kilometers per hour than
Barrichello.
> And during Schumacher before the apex five meters at all no gas are, are
> there with the Brazilian of ten meters. But everything is not gold which
> shines. Thus Michael Schumacher with its driving fashion stresses the
> material more strongly than Barrichello. The front tires are more strongly
> loaded, because Schumacher brakes more strongly and faster in-driven into
> the curves. This caused in some past running that the Kerpener could not
> drive with the softer tire mixture, Rubens Barrichello however already.
Also
> the brakes and the engine are more strongly loaded, because Schumacher
> brakes at the same time and gives gas. And also gasoline consumption might
> be higher with Schumacher by this fact than with the Brazilian. But if it
> comes *** hard, as in Montreal, when the brakes over their limit were,
> Michael Schumacher can change its style of driving over completely and
> preserve the brakes thereby. That constitutes evenly a genuine world
> champion.

> The assertion (made here and elsewhere regarding this topic) this article
> proves incorrect is that this driving technique is unrealistic because it
> would damage a real car so quickly that it couldn't finish a race.

>To avoid that you can feather the gas and clutch together to
>> maintain your position.

> Just up the street from me is a stop sign at a busy intersection.  It's also
> on a fairly steep incline and with cars parked on the street it's hard to
> see what's coming.  If you stop there with a manual transmission and anyone
> stops right behind you, it can be very hard for inexperienced drivers.
> Lots of people are smart enough not to stop 6 inches from someone's bumper
> on an incline but we all know not everyone is smart.  :)

> Achim

> >It was my impression that this technique had been in use by lots of
> >drivers for years.