dave henrie
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I would have done the same thing - counted on the drivers having a little
more patience and driving to the conditions.
Having said that, the rain was absolutely pounding down. The TV coverage
didn't do justice to how heavy it was. While I was driving home in it, I
couldn't get above 70kph (45mph) without aqua-planing on the freeway. A lot
of people on the road had pulled over, but I figured, heck, I've got brand
new tires which are supposedly pretty good in the wet, I'll soldier
on....scary stuff! ;-)
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> Just race the darn track. The racing conditions, while pretty poor,
weren't
> really that bad. I've seen much worse rain races, even in CART (I
remember
> a crazy race at Mid-Ohio with pouring rain about 4 years ago). They just
> went around the track like 20 times under the yellow, while they without a
> problem could have raced. Sure some would have wreck (as this is racing,
> no?), but hey it's part of the game. Just be more careful. CART was too
> politically correct.
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LOL
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Including Ovals then?
Doug
Luke
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> > If you cant race on a track because of the weather then it should
> > not be allowed to race on ever.
> Including Ovals then?
> Doug
1) Let 'em race... if they wreck, they wreck. This is big-time motorsport
2) Run 'em like they did. Keep 'em under yellow, hoping and praying the rain
will dissipate enough to make the track safe enough for racing
3) F*ck 'em (the fans, sponsors, drivers). We tried, but Mother Nature wasn't
cooperating. We're going back home to prepare for Fontana.
I would have done the same thing CART chose to do, which was #2 above. I'd
rather go to a track and see the cars *try* to squeeze out a few racing laps (as
they did... 6 to be exact), rather than seeing another racing death (possible in
#1 above) or being told the race is canceled as in #3 above.
Warlock!
> LOL
> > Knowing that you had to load up the cars/teams/gear ASAP to get them
> > shipped back to America, knowing that the contract with the City called
> for
> > clearing the streets before Monday, knowing that the Rain just wasn't
> gonna
> > stop....what would YOU have done about that dang race??
> > dave henrie
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Given the situation of this past weekend I really doubt anything really
different could have been done other than cancel the race altogether. On the
other hand I think this past weekend is perfect example of just how bad CART
is hurting. IMO they should never put themselves in the position to have to
run a race in those conditions. After seeing the in car view of Michael's
where he couldn't even see the car in front until he was under just shows
how bad the conditions really were. No person in their right mind should
expect drivers to run in that. Even when they were running they were not
racing. At best they were driving around trying not to wreck. Kind of like
me in GPL lol. This past weekend was just another nail in CART's coffin.
MadDAWG
I wonder why CART doesn't have an out clause that allows a possible monetary
penalty to keep the street course in place just in case there is a "mother
nature" type of problem? I have no idea what the cost would be but it should
be considered in the future. I have attended almost every race in Vancouver
and I'm shocked nothing like this has ever happened there. This Aussie race
could be a little fore-shadowing of a possible situation in Van since they
moved the date for that race from the Labour Day weekend to the end of
July... which is a much worse date for good racing weather (or, at least a
much greater chance of rain anyway).
Robin
> Knowing that you had to load up the cars/teams/gear ASAP to get them
> shipped back to America, knowing that the contract with the City called for
> clearing the streets before Monday, knowing that the Rain just wasn't gonna
> stop....what would YOU have done about that dang race??
> dave henrie
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In the end, this is not what CART needed these days. I'm rooting for
CART to pull through and squash IRL, but I suspect I'm supporting the
losing team :-((((((
Gary
How in the world, after running a series of this nature for 20 and some odd
years, did CART ever allow themselves to get into such a mess in the first
place?
Why isnt the race run on Saturday, so that they have an extra day in case of
the weather? Any race run outside the North American Continent, where team
travel plans are so complicated, should be planned accordingly.
Oh well...
Michael
B. They did***the fans over big time at the track. They got to see 6
green laps of the scheduled 70, of which the last 31 were under yellow.
LMAO. What they should have done was cancel/reschedule the event for the day
later in the year. Nobody that paid for those tickets are happy today,
nobody. So, they basically did all 3 of the choices you referred to below.
They did let em wreck (at the start), kept them under yellow for 34 of the
40 laps, and then said:***you folks at Surfers, we have a race to get
ready for next week and you just lost every cent you spent on a ticket,
cause we're outta here!
I guess they wanted to prove to Ecclestone that they could be a good feeder
for F1: No passing for 40 laps except through pitting, and all the racing
occuring during the first 10 laps of the race.
> 1) Let 'em race... if they wreck, they wreck. This is big-time motorsport
> 2) Run 'em like they did. Keep 'em under yellow, hoping and praying the
rain
> will dissipate enough to make the track safe enough for racing
> 3) F*ck 'em (the fans, sponsors, drivers). We tried, but Mother Nature
wasn't
> cooperating. We're going back home to prepare for Fontana.
> I would have done the same thing CART chose to do, which was #2 above. I'd
> rather go to a track and see the cars *try* to squeeze out a few racing
laps (as
> they did... 6 to be exact), rather than seeing another racing death
(possible in
> #1 above) or being told the race is canceled as in #3 above.
> Warlock!
> > They should not have worried about the stinkin' tv contract and they
should
> > have finished the race. They have this history of not being prepared
(anyone
> > remember Texas) and they made another last minute decision just like
when
> > they were there and that let a guy who made 4 pitstops win a race, when
the
> > guy ran in the back the whole race. I mean, what else did SpeedTv have
to
> > show at 2am?
> > LOL
> > > Knowing that you had to load up the cars/teams/gear ASAP to get them
> > > shipped back to America, knowing that the contract with the City
called
> > for
> > > clearing the streets before Monday, knowing that the Rain just wasn't
> > gonna
> > > stop....what would YOU have done about that dang race??
> > > dave henrie
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Nobody that paid for those tickets are happy today,
Ok, now THAT'S funny! :-)
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