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Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

Joe6

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Joe6 » Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:15:10

Great new arcade racing game on the PS2 (also on the XBox and GC, but
apparently those versions are inferior - caveat emptor!).

Looks as good as GT3. Seriously. Incredible sense of speed, control,
and good old fashioned racing fun.

If you have a PS2, give this one a try for sure.

Very very nice job by Black Box (r.i.p.) in Vacouver!

Joe62

Steve Smit

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Steve Smit » Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:55:11

Joe,

I drove both the Xbox and PS2 versions for a "road test" for a magazine
article (Top Ten console driving games) and found little difference between
them.  I rated the game second to Gran Turismo, but waaaay behind - it's not
in the same class as GT3 (gfx, physics, immersion, gameplay, etc.), but it
*is* plenty fun!  If only it was based on Brock Yates' Cannonball Baker
Sea-to-Shining-Sea Memorial Trophy Dash!

--Steve Smith, Founder & President, Anti-Destination League


Dave Coo

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Dave Coo » Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:14:31


Two questions:  Does it have a***pit view (I assume this is yes) and from the
***pit do you get the 6DOF POV that we all know and love from our favorite
racing titles?

- Dave

Damien Smit

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Damien Smit » Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:20:16

Interesting...   ign.com bagged the Xbox version but gave the PS2 version
9/10.  They were different reviewers though and I guess most PS2 gamers are
easily pleased...

Goy Larse

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Goy Larse » Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:43:48


> --Steve Smith, Founder & President, Anti-Destination League

URL please, I gotta see the web pages for a league that can come up with
a name like this :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--

Andreas Nystro

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Andreas Nystro » Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:54:12

The xbox version isnt as good as the PS2 version, thats why.
Xbox game doesnt have the same sensation of speed etc, thats what ive heard
from those who have both versions.


Joe M

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Joe M » Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:18:12

Steve,

I'm surprised you didn't find differences since there are many reviews
around the net that say they are VERY different (PS2 dev by BB and XBOX/GC
dev by EA Seattle).  The most significant difference is said to be in the
handling.  The PS2 has "extreme" mode (=more realistic?) which absent from
the others.  I also thought the game play modes, track choices and graphics
were vastly different and surprisingly better on the PS2.

--
Joe M.


> Joe,

> I drove both the Xbox and PS2 versions for a "road test" for a magazine
> article (Top Ten console driving games) and found little difference
between
> them.  I rated the game second to Gran Turismo, but waaaay behind - it's
not
> in the same class as GT3 (gfx, physics, immersion, gameplay, etc.), but it
> *is* plenty fun!  If only it was based on Brock Yates' Cannonball Baker
> Sea-to-Shining-Sea Memorial Trophy Dash!

> --Steve Smith, Founder & President, Anti-Destination League



> > Great new arcade racing game on the PS2 (also on the XBox and GC, but
> > apparently those versions are inferior - caveat emptor!).

> > Looks as good as GT3. Seriously. Incredible sense of speed, control,
> > and good old fashioned racing fun.

> > If you have a PS2, give this one a try for sure.

> > Very very nice job by Black Box (r.i.p.) in Vacouver!

> > Joe62

Goy Larse

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Goy Larse » Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:30:21


> Steve,

> I'm surprised you didn't find differences since there are many reviews
> around the net that say they are VERY different (PS2 dev by BB and XBOX/GC
> dev by EA Seattle).  The most significant difference is said to be in the
> handling.  The PS2 has "extreme" mode (=more realistic?) which absent from
> the others.  I also thought the game play modes, track choices and graphics
> were vastly different and surprisingly better on the PS2.

Steve is getting old......

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--

Dave Coo

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Dave Coo » Fri, 11 Oct 2002 01:40:59


Ugh.  No***pit view!?  I just rented it from Blockbuster.  Geez...

- Dave

Joe6

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Joe6 » Fri, 11 Oct 2002 03:23:37

On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:55:11 GMT, "Steve Smith"


>I drove both the Xbox and PS2 versions for a "road test" for a magazine
>article (Top Ten console driving games) and found little difference between
>them.  

Look closer. The differences - less cars, less tracks, sloppier
physics, poorer graphics - have been pretty well documented:

The Xbox and GameCube versions were scored 7.2 and the PS2 8.5 on
Gamespot. The other versions are missing about a dozen cars - plus
tracks. Here are a few quotes that I took from the Xbox article about
the differences.

Full article:
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/0,11114,561156,00.html

"You'd expect that the console versions of this game to be identical,
but strangely enough, they're not. While the Xbox and GameCube
iterations of Hot Pursuit II are in fact exact ports of one another,
they're markedly different from their PlayStation 2 cousin, and in
this case, "different" doesn't mean "better." In short, the Xbox and
GameCube versions of Hot Pursuit II have slightly detuned graphics,
mushier controls, and inexplicably, a variety of minute but tangible
ommissions from the PlayStation 2 game."

"It's perhaps a little strange that you're not rewarded for driving
wild in the Xbox version of Hot Pursuit II, like you are in the PS2
game. In fact, the points system in this version of Hot Pursuit II is
completely different from the PlayStation 2 version."

"There are a little over 30 cars that you can unlock in the
game--about a dozen less than the PS2 game--including 10 cop cars, all
of which can be driven at will in the game's challenge mode."

"It should be noted that Hot Pursuit II lacks the extreme handling
setting found in the PS2 version of the game. This exaggerates the
handling characteristics of the cars even further, and makes for a
very visceral racing experience. Nor does this game have the precise
controls of its PlayStation 2 cousin."

"Hot Pursuit II gives you four different perspectives to play
from--three from the third-person and one from the first--and all of
these relay a fair sense of speed, though nowhere near as fast as the
PS2 version. The car models, too, aren't as detailed as Hot Pursuit II
for the PlayStation 2--they lack the overall polygon count and their
lighting isn't as well done, nor do they take any visible signs of
damage. What's more, the tracks themselves look a little bit fuzzy,
and the textures are somewhat washed out when compared to the PS2
game."

Steve Smit

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Steve Smit » Fri, 11 Oct 2002 03:26:24

Very old.



> > Steve,

> > I'm surprised you didn't find differences since there are many reviews
> > around the net that say they are VERY different (PS2 dev by BB and
XBOX/GC
> > dev by EA Seattle).  The most significant difference is said to be in
the
> > handling.  The PS2 has "extreme" mode (=more realistic?) which absent
from
> > the others.  I also thought the game play modes, track choices and
graphics
> > were vastly different and surprisingly better on the PS2.

> Steve is getting old......

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> --Groucho Marx--

Steve Smit

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Steve Smit » Fri, 11 Oct 2002 03:40:12

May I quote you in the story?


> Steve,

> I'm surprised you didn't find differences since there are many reviews
> around the net that say they are VERY different (PS2 dev by BB and XBOX/GC
> dev by EA Seattle).  The most significant difference is said to be in the
> handling.  The PS2 has "extreme" mode (=more realistic?) which absent from
> the others.  I also thought the game play modes, track choices and
graphics
> were vastly different and surprisingly better on the PS2.

> --
> Joe M.



> > Joe,

> > I drove both the Xbox and PS2 versions for a "road test" for a magazine
> > article (Top Ten console driving games) and found little difference
> between
> > them.  I rated the game second to Gran Turismo, but waaaay behind - it's
> not
> > in the same class as GT3 (gfx, physics, immersion, gameplay, etc.), but
it
> > *is* plenty fun!  If only it was based on Brock Yates' Cannonball Baker
> > Sea-to-Shining-Sea Memorial Trophy Dash!

> > --Steve Smith, Founder & President, Anti-Destination League



> > > Great new arcade racing game on the PS2 (also on the XBox and GC, but
> > > apparently those versions are inferior - caveat emptor!).

> > > Looks as good as GT3. Seriously. Incredible sense of speed, control,
> > > and good old fashioned racing fun.

> > > If you have a PS2, give this one a try for sure.

> > > Very very nice job by Black Box (r.i.p.) in Vacouver!

> > > Joe62

Ruud van Ga

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Ruud van Ga » Fri, 11 Oct 2002 05:09:28


>Great new arcade racing game on the PS2 (also on the XBox and GC, but
>apparently those versions are inferior - caveat emptor!).

>Looks as good as GT3. Seriously. Incredible sense of speed, control,
>and good old fashioned racing fun.

I could never outrun the Police in the demo. :(
All this sim programming must have gotten my to suck at actual driving
itself. ;-)

This 1mm varying mushroom PS2 controller is difficult to control.

Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/
Pencil art  : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

Damien Smit

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by Damien Smit » Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:24:48

So the question begs, which version is the PC version based on?
ymenar

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2

by ymenar » Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:51:34


> The xbox version isnt as good as the PS2 version, thats why.
> Xbox game doesnt have the same sensation of speed etc, thats what ive
heard
> from those who have both versions.

The ironic part here is that the "enhanced" sensation of speed is purely
arcadish and no way represent a realistic sense of speed.  Yet it's
considered a good thing, while unrealistic.  But egah!, it's the console
market! <G>

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