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by **Galle** » Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:18:38

forth these words of wisdom:

If you view the "Making Of..." in the credits section, you will see dashboards.
I have heard they may be available for a few of the cars, maybe as a cheat.

--
"Life is what you experience between racing games"
Galley

by **Joe M** » Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:22:55

You probably should ask Joe62 since he sounds like he has actually played
the games and even took the time to neatly list and quote his sources. I'm
just getting my info second hand from reviews and newsgroups.

I don't mind being quoted but spewing second hand info with liberal
paraphrasing doesn't sound very credible. I'm just lucky to be right this
time. ;0)

--
Joe M.

> May I quote you in the story?

> > Steve,

> > I'm surprised you didn't find differences since there are many reviews
> > around the net that say they are VERY different (PS2 dev by BB and
XBOX/GC
> > dev by EA Seattle). The most significant difference is said to be in
the
> > handling. The PS2 has "extreme" mode (=more realistic?) which absent
from
> > the others. I also thought the game play modes, track choices and
> graphics
> > were vastly different and surprisingly better on the PS2.

> > --
> > Joe M.

> > > Joe,

> > > I drove both the Xbox and PS2 versions for a "road test" for a
magazine
> > > article (Top Ten console driving games) and found little difference
> > between
> > > them. I rated the game second to Gran Turismo, but waaaay behind -
it's
> > not
> > > in the same class as GT3 (gfx, physics, immersion, gameplay, etc.),
but
> it
> > > *is* plenty fun! If only it was based on Brock Yates' Cannonball
Baker
> > > Sea-to-Shining-Sea Memorial Trophy Dash!

> > > --Steve Smith, Founder & President, Anti-Destination League

> > > > Great new arcade racing game on the PS2 (also on the XBox and GC,
but
> > > > apparently those versions are inferior - caveat emptor!).

> > > > Looks as good as GT3. Seriously. Incredible sense of speed, control,
> > > > and good old fashioned racing fun.

> > > > If you have a PS2, give this one a try for sure.

> > > > Very very nice job by Black Box (r.i.p.) in Vacouver!

> > > > Joe62

by **Steve Smit** » Fri, 11 Oct 2002 20:49:21

'k. I've ammended the story. Thx!

> You probably should ask Joe62 since he sounds like he has actually played
> the games and even took the time to neatly list and quote his sources.
I'm
> just getting my info second hand from reviews and newsgroups.

> I don't mind being quoted but spewing second hand info with liberal
> paraphrasing doesn't sound very credible. I'm just lucky to be right this
> time. ;0)

> --
> Joe M.

> > May I quote you in the story?

> > > Steve,

> > > I'm surprised you didn't find differences since there are many reviews
> > > around the net that say they are VERY different (PS2 dev by BB and
> XBOX/GC
> > > dev by EA Seattle). The most significant difference is said to be in
> the
> > > handling. The PS2 has "extreme" mode (=more realistic?) which absent
> from
> > > the others. I also thought the game play modes, track choices and
> > graphics
> > > were vastly different and surprisingly better on the PS2.

> > > --
> > > Joe M.

> > > > Joe,

> > > > I drove both the Xbox and PS2 versions for a "road test" for a
> magazine
> > > > article (Top Ten console driving games) and found little difference
> > > between
> > > > them. I rated the game second to Gran Turismo, but waaaay behind -
> it's
> > > not
> > > > in the same class as GT3 (gfx, physics, immersion, gameplay, etc.),
> but
> > it
> > > > *is* plenty fun! If only it was based on Brock Yates' Cannonball
> Baker
> > > > Sea-to-Shining-Sea Memorial Trophy Dash!

> > > > --Steve Smith, Founder & President, Anti-Destination League

> > > > > Great new arcade racing game on the PS2 (also on the XBox and GC,
> but
> > > > > apparently those versions are inferior - caveat emptor!).

> > > > > Looks as good as GT3. Seriously. Incredible sense of speed,
control,
> > > > > and good old fashioned racing fun.

> > > > > If you have a PS2, give this one a try for sure.

> > > > > Very very nice job by Black Box (r.i.p.) in Vacouver!

> > > > > Joe62

by **Andreas Nystro** » Sat, 12 Oct 2002 04:02:13

its even worse then gamecube/xbox version from what ive read.
Lots of missing features, but could have been changed! (hopefully).

by **Donov** » Sun, 13 Oct 2002 06:17:04

I rented the Gamecube version the other day, I dont' have a PS2 so
can't comment on that version. THE GC version of this is purely arcade
and doesn't relly make an attempt at realism. IGN and Gamespot were
generous when they both awarded this game 7.3, I'd be unwilling to
give in anything above 6.5. Don't flame me based on the console I'm
referring to, because both Burnout GC and ExtremeG3 GC have far
superior graphics and handle very well for arcade racers. The graphics
are poor -poor framerates and very poor textures- and IMHO are
somewhere below NFS3 PC which was released in 1998! The car models
aren't too bad but still seem below NFS3 with a decent graphics card.
The graphics are poor enough that they actually impede your ability to
drive and play the game.
I've played every PC release of the NFS series from v.1 - 5 (NFSPU)
and this is no better than the v 2 for PC which was the weakest of the
PC releases. Someone in another newsgroup post mentioned that NFS HP2
was built on the NFSPU engine. Having played NFSPU a lot on the PC, it
seem that the GC version definately isn't based on it but instead the
NFS3 / NFS4 engine; may be true for the PS2 version which explains
it's better quality.
On the positive side, for pure gameplay, this game is quite good. The
Hot Pursuit mode is better than ever and there's lots of different
racing modes. Police choppers dropping explosives on you in HP is much
more fun than the gimmick it sounds like.

Donovan

> >Great new arcade racing game on the PS2 (also on the XBox and GC, but
> >apparently those versions are inferior - caveat emptor!).

> >Looks as good as GT3. Seriously. Incredible sense of speed, control,
> >and good old fashioned racing fun.

> I could never outrun the Police in the demo. :(
> All this sim programming must have gotten my to suck at actual driving
> itself. ;-)

> This 1mm varying mushroom PS2 controller is difficult to control.

> Ruud van Gaal
> Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/
> Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

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