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F1 2001 braking sensativity

John E. Crous

F1 2001 braking sensativity

by John E. Crous » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 05:22:15

I saw an earlier post about the braking in F1 2001 and have tp agree. The
braking seems a little weak. Guess I'm used to GP2 where you touched the
brakes and they were locked. I have braking assistance turned off. How do
you folks have your Y axis configured ?

JC

Pat Dotso

F1 2001 braking sensativity

by Pat Dotso » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:34:14

I'm not sure how realistic F1 2001 is in terms of braking.
It does seem kind of easy.  However, I have heard it said that
in these winged formula cars, it is almost impossible to
lock up the wheels at higher speeds because of all the
downforce.  Some of the default setups have 50 degree
angles on the wings, so I would expect that at high speeds
it will really slow down the car.

The thing I find so different about F1 2001 is that, while
it is easy to just drive the car without pushing it, there
is a well-defined limit to the car's handling, and it is
a challenge to keep the car on the edge.
--
Pat Dotson


> I saw an earlier post about the braking in F1 2001 and have tp agree. The
> braking seems a little weak. Guess I'm used to GP2 where you touched the
> brakes and they were locked. I have braking assistance turned off. How do
> you folks have your Y axis configured ?

> JC

Joe Marque

F1 2001 braking sensativity

by Joe Marque » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:57:24

I agree Pat.  I can run 1:30 all day at Monaco with the std set-up.  Getting
to a realistic time (mid-1:20's) will take far more tweaking and talent
(that I may not have) to push the car to the edge.

--
Joe Marques


> I'm not sure how realistic F1 2001 is in terms of braking.
> It does seem kind of easy.  However, I have heard it said that
> in these winged formula cars, it is almost impossible to
> lock up the wheels at higher speeds because of all the
> downforce.  Some of the default setups have 50 degree
> angles on the wings, so I would expect that at high speeds
> it will really slow down the car.

> The thing I find so different about F1 2001 is that, while
> it is easy to just drive the car without pushing it, there
> is a well-defined limit to the car's handling, and it is
> a challenge to keep the car on the edge.
> --
> Pat Dotson


> > I saw an earlier post about the braking in F1 2001 and have tp agree.
The
> > braking seems a little weak. Guess I'm used to GP2 where you touched the
> > brakes and they were locked. I have braking assistance turned off. How
do
> > you folks have your Y axis configured ?

> > JC

Pat Dotso

F1 2001 braking sensativity

by Pat Dotso » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:48:20

I ran a short race at Monaco during a championship season.
Using the default setup, my fastest lap was a 1:24.9, so
it can be done :)

Do these cars really run as much as 50 degrees of wing
angle?  Seems like all the other F1 sims limit movement
to 20 or 30 degrees.
--
Pat Dotson


> I agree Pat.  I can run 1:30 all day at Monaco with the std set-up.  Getting
> to a realistic time (mid-1:20's) will take far more tweaking and talent
> (that I may not have) to push the car to the edge.

> --
> Joe Marques



> > I'm not sure how realistic F1 2001 is in terms of braking.
> > It does seem kind of easy.  However, I have heard it said that
> > in these winged formula cars, it is almost impossible to
> > lock up the wheels at higher speeds because of all the
> > downforce.  Some of the default setups have 50 degree
> > angles on the wings, so I would expect that at high speeds
> > it will really slow down the car.

> > The thing I find so different about F1 2001 is that, while
> > it is easy to just drive the car without pushing it, there
> > is a well-defined limit to the car's handling, and it is
> > a challenge to keep the car on the edge.
> > --
> > Pat Dotson


> > > I saw an earlier post about the braking in F1 2001 and have tp agree.
> The
> > > braking seems a little weak. Guess I'm used to GP2 where you touched the
> > > brakes and they were locked. I have braking assistance turned off. How
> do
> > > you folks have your Y axis configured ?

> > > JC

Joe Marque

F1 2001 braking sensativity

by Joe Marque » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:10:02

I'm guessing ISI got it right with 50 degrees but I don't know for sure.

Hey Pat, do you mind sending me your hotlap replay of your 1:24 (if you save
replays) so I can learn something ;-).

If you don't mind my e-mail address is:

joemarques(at)home(dot)com.

Thanks,

--
Joe Marques


> I ran a short race at Monaco during a championship season.
> Using the default setup, my fastest lap was a 1:24.9, so
> it can be done :)

> Do these cars really run as much as 50 degrees of wing
> angle?  Seems like all the other F1 sims limit movement
> to 20 or 30 degrees.
> --
> Pat Dotson


> > I agree Pat.  I can run 1:30 all day at Monaco with the std set-up.
Getting
> > to a realistic time (mid-1:20's) will take far more tweaking and talent
> > (that I may not have) to push the car to the edge.

> > --
> > Joe Marques

Per Thuli

F1 2001 braking sensativity

by Per Thuli » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:23:40



Well, since they use completely different sets for different circuits, a
number of "degrees" doesn't really tell the whole story at any rate. I
haven't thought about that before -- no sim has gone to the trouble of
letting you choose 1, 2 or 3 planes in the rear wing!

--
"Walk like a Syrian"

Per Thulin

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David G Fishe

F1 2001 braking sensativity

by David G Fishe » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:15:03

F1RC does.

David G Fisher




> > Do these cars really run as much as 50 degrees of wing
> > angle?  Seems like all the other F1 sims limit movement
> > to 20 or 30 degrees.

> Well, since they use completely different sets for different circuits, a
> number of "degrees" doesn't really tell the whole story at any rate. I
> haven't thought about that before -- no sim has gone to the trouble of
> letting you choose 1, 2 or 3 planes in the rear wing!

> --
> "Walk like a Syrian"

> Per Thulin

> Visit Jane The Hamster's web site at http://w1.541.telia.com/~u54108168/

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Per Thuli

F1 2001 braking sensativity

by Per Thuli » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:58:14



'Scuse me. Of course, the exclamation mark should have been a question
ditto! (I gave up on that series after the first one, and very quickly,
before really getting into the setup thingy. Gave me car sickness, and
never would install properly with newer DirectX versions!)

--
"Walk like a Syrian"

Per Thulin

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Stephen Ferguso

F1 2001 braking sensativity

by Stephen Ferguso » Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:49:00

 > >

Hey, F1 World GP let you choose the number of elements in your rear wing,
and we all know what a killer sim that was. :-)

Stephen


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