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Driving wheel recommendation for Racing SIM

FLIGH

Driving wheel recommendation for Racing SIM

by FLIGH » Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Gents,

I'm a newbie to the racing sim genre and hope you can help me with the
following to get me started:
1. I have the CH pro pedal from ancient time that never got used. Is this
sufficient for serious learning of sim racing ?
2. Do I need a steering wheel for my sim racing ? Could you recommend  one ?
3. I want how to race my real car sometime and plan to use a good sim that
can provide me with this kind of training. Could you recommend the best sim
for this ? I'm one of those men that don't have much a feel for how to
control the car when skidding and sliding happens and really want to be able
to maneuver out of those situations safely. I also want to do the cool thing
when you speed down the road and turn with just brakes (?), or from stop and
go you could turn left or right by punching the tail around... I have been
driving a long time (25years) but all are city drivings, straight, turn
slowly, change lane, park and I've never got a feel for  the "safe and cool"
driving. Thanks for all info. available.

Please remove spam.free. when reply my emails.

Flight

SSmi

Driving wheel recommendation for Racing SIM

by SSmi » Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:00:00

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:39:04 -0700, "FLIGHT"


>Gents,

>I'm a newbie to the racing sim genre and hope you can help me with the
>following to get me started:
>1. I have the CH pro pedal from ancient time that never got used. Is this
>sufficient for serious learning of sim racing ?
>2. Do I need a steering wheel for my sim racing ? Could you recommend  one ?
>3. I want how to race my real car sometime and plan to use a good sim that
>can provide me with this kind of training. Could you recommend the best sim
>for this ? I'm one of those men that don't have much a feel for how to
>control the car when skidding and sliding happens and really want to be able
>to maneuver out of those situations safely. I also want to do the cool thing
>when you speed down the road and turn with just brakes (?), or from stop and
>go you could turn left or right by punching the tail around... I have been
>driving a long time (25years) but all are city drivings, straight, turn
>slowly, change lane, park and I've never got a feel for  the "safe and cool"
>driving. Thanks for all info. available.

>Please remove spam.free. when reply my emails.

>Flight

Your CH pedals will work just fine.  As far as controller goes, and if
you want to use the sim for training, of course you need a wheel.  I
dont know of any racecars with joysticks.  Wheel choice?? - depends on
your budget.  You can spend anywhere from $40 all the way up +$15,000
for a setup.  Thrustmaster (www.thrustmaster.com)has some decent low
cost solutions, all thought they are a little on the "plasticy toy
side"  (please no flamers, I own 3 Thrustmaster wheels, and like
them), and can be purchased at most computer retail shops.  TSW
(http://soli.inav.net?~thomas/) makes probably the best wheel (as far
as feel and quality for the money).  As far as the best sim goes???
Ask five people and get five different answers.  In my experience (I
have been racing SCCA events for ten years and racing computer sims
for 3 years), I personally think that Papyrus (ICR2 and NASCAR2) have
the most "realistic" car physics.  However, I must state that a
computer racing sim will not make you a better real world car driver
or "teach" you how to control a car, I dont care what anybody says.  A
computer sim makes you react with your eyes.  In the real world, if
you wait for your eyes to clue you in that the car is sliding, your in
for a ride.  In the real world, you drive with your butt, you feeeel
the car with your hands and your backside.  If you want to learn to
race your real car someday, I reccomend that you hunt down your local
SCCA club and join.  Try a few SOLO 2 autocross events, to see if you
like it.  The BMW Club of North America reguraly puts on "driving
schools" where you can take your own car to a natural terrain raod
course, and let you out on it same with the Porsche Club.  There are
many, many racing schools thruought the country, pick up any racing
magazine and look at the adds in the back. Buy a racing sim to enhance
your enjoyment of motor racing, not to teach you how to drive.

Good luck and hppy racing!!!
Wheels down, pointy end forward!!

Steve

FLIGH

Driving wheel recommendation for Racing SIM

by FLIGH » Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:00:00


>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:39:04 -0700, "FLIGHT"


Thanks for your reply.

Point well taken. I wasn't clear in my post at all. I should have said that
the purpose for racing sim is for me to understand better in general how a
car handle in those sliding, skidding and "cool" turns. Just the physics of
it. Right now I have _no_ certain feel for how and why the car behaves the
ways it does in those circumstances and therefore I don't have know how to
handle those situations, even only intellectually. And that's my motive for
getting one or two racing sims to just _learn_ the physics. To understand
all the reactions one should go thru as in real life without the experience
of real life. This is only the first step, I appreciate your info greatly, I
do plan to get _real_ training but didn't know how to start until your tips.

Flight

Darin Car

Driving wheel recommendation for Racing SIM

by Darin Car » Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Flight,

The CH Pro Pedals are more than sufficient for use in sim racing. I use
the original CH Pedals and have had no problems with them in 3+ years!

If you're looking for a good quality wheel with realistic features,
reliable parts, and a great price, check out the EXL 500 from CH
Products at http://www.chproducts.com/pcgear9.html

Darin Carr
DCarr on TEN
OSCAR SM4 / HAL-TE
Sponsored by CH Products
http://www.chproducts.com


> Gents,

> I'm a newbie to the racing sim genre and hope you can help me with the
> following to get me started:
> 1. I have the CH pro pedal from ancient time that never got used. Is this
> sufficient for serious learning of sim racing ?
> 2. Do I need a steering wheel for my sim racing ? Could you recommend  one ?
> 3. I want how to race my real car sometime and plan to use a good sim that
> can provide me with this kind of training. Could you recommend the best sim
> for this ? I'm one of those men that don't have much a feel for how to
> control the car when skidding and sliding happens and really want to be able
> to maneuver out of those situations safely. I also want to do the cool thing
> when you speed down the road and turn with just brakes (?), or from stop and
> go you could turn left or right by punching the tail around... I have been
> driving a long time (25years) but all are city drivings, straight, turn
> slowly, change lane, park and I've never got a feel for  the "safe and cool"
> driving. Thanks for all info. available.

> Please remove spam.free. when reply my emails.

> Flight

SSmi

Driving wheel recommendation for Racing SIM

by SSmi » Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:00:00

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:35:34 -0700, "FLIGHT"



>>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:39:04 -0700, "FLIGHT"

>Thanks for your reply.

>>the most "realistic" car physics.  However, I must state that a
>>computer racing sim will not make you a better real world car driver
>>or "teach" you how to control a car, I dont care what anybody says.

>Point well taken. I wasn't clear in my post at all. I should have said that
>the purpose for racing sim is for me to understand better in general how a
>car handle in those sliding, skidding and "cool" turns. Just the physics of
>it.

And the nice thing about sims....when those "cool" turns send you into
the wall at 200mph, all you ahve to do is say 'Oh crap' and push the
restart button!!!  Anyway, good luck with your real world "racing"
ventures, and dont loose hope if your not the fastest guy your first
time out.  It might take a while.

Wheels down, pointy end forward!!

Steve


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