Hardware / Graphics cards

ATI Radeon

discussed in 1,072 posts, 2000-2011 · overall tone mixed

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Radeon 9200 upgrade slower than expected 2004-02-15 · 37 posts
Peter Ives upgraded from a Xabre 200 to a Radeon 9200 and found little or no frame rate gain in NR2003. Replies explained that the 9200, especially the SE, was a low-end card, and suggested a 9600 Pro or GeForce4 Ti instead, along with cleaning out old drivers. Posters also found OpenGL slower than D3D on ATI cards, and Eldred's AOL client repeated one reply many times.
Papa Doc's Voodoo5 vs GeForce3 benchmarks spark long argument 2002-01-14 · 311 posts
Pierre "Papa Doc" Legrand published benchmarks comparing a Voodoo5 and a GeForce3 in Ghost Recon, NASCAR 4, Quake 3 and flight sims, finding the Voodoo5 competitive with 4x FSAA. Many disputed his methodology, including running 3DMark without hardware T&L, and argued the GeForce3 was better in every way. The thread ran to over 300 posts and degenerated into insults, ending up on multi-monitor and LCD resolution arguments.
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro versus Nvidia FX 5900 Ultra 2003-09-06 · 34 posts
A link to DirectX 9 pixel shader benchmarks started a debate over ATI and Nvidia cards. Roger Squires and Tim Miser cited Nvidia's benchmark cheating and weak DX9 performance, while Cyber Chum and Larry argued ATI's drivers were still less reliable in some games. Half-Life 2 benchmarks favouring ATI tipped several posters towards the 9800 Pro.
NR2003 frame rates fall after Radeon 9700 Pro upgrade 2003-03-16 · 39 posts
Mark Davison found NR2003 and NR2002 frame rates dropped after moving from a Ti4200 to a Radeon 9700 Pro on a new nForce2 system. Suggestions included reinstalling Windows, checking BIOS and Vsync settings, and using Direct3D, and others noted the Radeon's advantage only appears with anti-aliasing and high resolutions. Mark eventually found a faulty memory module and concluded Papyrus games ran comparably on both cards.
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro performance and driver reputation 2002-09-11 · 90 posts
A poster asked why the ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, a big jump over the GeForce4, was not being discussed. Early reports were mixed in NR2002, with slow performance blamed on leftover nVidia drivers, and a long argument followed over whether ATI's poor driver reputation was still deserved. The cross-posted thread degenerated into AMD versus Intel brand loyalty and complaints about off-topic posting.
F1 2001 graphics corruption on a Radeon 2001-12-08 · 26 posts
Ice D reported severe graphical corruption running F1 2001 on a friend's Radeon with Omega drivers. Suggestions included checking display settings, trying refresh rates and doing a full ATI driver purge and reinstall, which had fixed similar 'belt' artefacts for Sideshow Bob. The thread descended into ribbing between Voodoo5 and Radeon owners.
Missing trackside textures in GPL on Radeon cards 2003-02-25 · 35 posts
BRH reported that trees and stands disappeared in GPL on Radeon 8500 and 9700 Pro cards. Moving the ATI texture preference slider to performance fixed it, and Jon Ferraez blamed Catalyst 3.1 drivers and noted the GPL OpenGL patch was made for Nvidia cards. Gerry Aitken and Joachim Trensz reported excellent GPL frame rates on the 9700, disputing Marc Collins's complaints of poor support.
Video card wars: nVidia, 3dfx and ATI Radeon 2000-08-17 · 32 posts
Regular Racer touted the new ATI Radeon, prompting a debate between Voodoo 5 owners who refused to play sims without rotated-grid anti-aliasing and others who valued GeForce 2 speed and T&L. Kai Fuller argued graphics features don't change how a car drives, and Simon Brown and PapaDoc clashed over driver reliability.
Live for Speed demo 0.1A adds reversed track and AI 2002-09-05 · 38 posts
Ped Xing relayed Scawen's announcement of Live for Speed demo version 0.1A, quickly followed by 0.1B; users enjoyed online racing on the reversed GP track. Much of the thread dealt with Radeon 8500 owners getting about 1fps, with disabling hardware TCL helping some but not others, and with split-axis and LWFF force-feedback issues. A side spat arose when a comment about buggy releases, meant for Flying Corps, was taken as an attack on LFS.
Upgrading from GeForce3 Ti200 to GeForce4 Ti4400 for sims 2002-07-03 · 42 posts
Don Burnette reported large frame-rate gains in F1 2002 and NASCAR Racing 2002 after moving to a GeForce4 Ti4400. Participants compared antialiasing modes, finding Quincunx nearly free in performance and arguing whether FSAA beats higher resolution. Discussion also covered CPU bottlenecks and nVidia versus Radeon image quality; Burnette eventually returned to high resolution without AA.
Upgrading from an old Radeon graphics card 2002-06-30 · 27 posts
Haqsau asked whether to buy a GeForce3 Ti200 to replace his 32MB Radeon. Others steered him to the similarly priced 128MB GeForce4 Ti4200, and he reported big frame-rate gains in F1 2001 before discussing vsync and anisotropic filtering settings.
Dave Henrie's case against Nvidia drivers 2001-10-25 · 27 posts
Dave Henrie explained his avoidance of Nvidia cards, citing the frequent need to swap drivers for different sims. Nvidia owners countered that their official drivers worked fine and that complaints were overrepresented, while Haqsau shared bad Nvidia experiences and Charles Hendrix blamed Microsoft for much driver trouble. Later posts asked about ATI Radeon settings for GPL.
16-bit versus 32-bit color in games 2001-06-22 · 48 posts
Andrew Dayton asked which games look ugly in 16-bit color. Many saw little difference and preferred the frame rate, while others cited banding in clouds and fog, Z-buffer precision and examples such as Homeworld, Deus Ex and green smoke in NFS Porsche Unleashed.
GPL cars turn transparent at 100% detail bias 2004-10-25 · 30 posts
Jussi Koukku found cars briefly became partly transparent at race starts when running GPL at 100% detail bias in Direct3D on an ATI card. Remco Moedt attributed it to a polygon limit in the Direct3D depth buffer, with fixes being disabling the Z-buffer in core.ini, using OpenGL, or dropping to 99% detail bias. Bob Simpson posted frame-rate tests, and the thread ended with another top-posting discussion.
Radeon 9800 Pro slower than a Ti4600 in NR2003 2003-04-06 · 28 posts
Morris Jones found his new Radeon 9800 Pro slower than his old Ti4600 in NR2003 despite reinstalling Windows. Suggestions covered Vsync, forced anisotropic filtering, AGP settings and a Microsoft XP SP1 slowdown fix. A side argument broke out over whether reinstalling Windows after changing video cards is ever necessary.

Busiest threads

Radeon 9200 upgrade slower than expected (20 posts about it)
Papa Doc's Voodoo5 vs GeForce3 benchmarks spark long argument (14 posts about it)
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro versus Nvidia FX 5900 Ultra (13 posts about it)
NR2003 frame rates fall after Radeon 9700 Pro upgrade (11 posts about it)
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro performance and driver reputation (11 posts about it)
F1 2001 graphics corruption on a Radeon (11 posts about it)
Re: GP3 - ATI Radeon problem. (9 posts about it)
Missing trackside textures in GPL on Radeon cards (8 posts about it)
Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4 (8 posts about it)
N4 - Graphics Cards - What to do... (8 posts about it)
Re: Itchy for a Radeon? (7 posts about it)
Video card wars: nVidia, 3dfx and ATI Radeon (7 posts about it)
RBR flashing scenery with ATI Radeon (6 posts about it)
Live for Speed demo 0.1A adds reversed track and AI (6 posts about it)
Upgrading from GeForce3 Ti200 to GeForce4 Ti4400 for sims (6 posts about it)

Sentiment by year

Each post that discussed it was rated from −2 (very negative) to +2 (very positive).

Year	Posts	Positive	Negative	Tone
2000	114	46	13	positive (+0.39)
2001	302	94	35	positive (+0.22)
2002	214	46	47	mixed (+0.00)
2003	240	53	54	mixed (+0.00)
2004	134	15	43	negative (-0.25)
2005	31	3	6	mixed (-0.10)
2006	20	5	7	mixed (-0.10)
2007	9	0	5	very negative (-0.67)
2008	2	0	1	negative (-0.50)
2009	5	0	0	mixed (+0.00)
2011	1	0	0	mixed (+0.00)