Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

I just got this card and it calibrates just fine in 3d3. I get between 30-60 fps. But in GL I get 60fps starting out ( and a much better picture) until the screen blacks out about 30 seconds after I start driving. I can hear sounds, but screen is black.I have set all the norm setting for GL, v-sync is turned off. System is AMD Atlon 1000, 30gig WD HD, 786 PC-133 SDRAM, on-board SB-128. N4 is patched. Any suggestions would be appreciated as video is much better in GL.

N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Which version are you using? "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I just got this card and it calibrates just fine in 3d3. I getbetween > 30-60 fps. But in GL I get 60fps starting out ( and a much betterpicture) > until the screen blacks out about 30 seconds after I start driving. Ican > hear sounds, but screen is black.I have set all the norm setting forGL, > v-sync is turned off. System is AMD Atlon 1000, 30gig WD HD, 786PC-133 > SDRAM, on-board SB-128. N4 is patched. Any suggestions would be > appreciated as video is much better in GL. > >

I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build is D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]...

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> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Which version > are you using? > > "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I just got this card and it calibrates just fine in 3d3. I get > between > > 30-60 fps. But in GL I get 60fps starting out ( and a much better > picture) > > until the screen blacks out about 30 seconds after I start driving. I > can > > hear sounds, but screen is black.I have set all the norm setting for > GL, > > v-sync is turned off. System is AMD Atlon 1000, 30gig WD HD, 786 > PC-133 > > SDRAM, on-board SB-128. N4 is patched. Any suggestions would be > > appreciated as video is much better in GL. > > > > >

The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, which I believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer ones work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are known to work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers in Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the 7041 driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still update your Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the driver is atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at www.rage3d.com. If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to you. "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xdxq7.3512$[email hidden]... > I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build is > D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]... > > N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Whichversion

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> > are you using? > > > > "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I just got this card and it calibrates just fine in 3d3. I get > > between > > > 30-60 fps. But in GL I get 60fps starting out ( and a much better > > picture) > > > until the screen blacks out about 30 seconds after I start

driving. I > > can > > > hear sounds, but screen is black.I have set all the norm settingfor

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> > GL, > > > v-sync is turned off. System is AMD Atlon 1000, 30gig WD HD, 786 > > PC-133 > > > SDRAM, on-board SB-128. N4 is patched. Any suggestions would be > > > appreciated as video is much better in GL. > > > > > > > > > >

Thank you, I'll try that tonight. "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kgyq7.1021$[email hidden]...

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> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, which I > believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer ones > work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are known to > work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers in > Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the 7041 > driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still update your > Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the driver is > atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at www.rage3d.com. > If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to you. > > > > "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xdxq7.3512$[email hidden]... > > I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build is > > D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]... > > > N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Which > version > > > are you using? > > > > > > "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I just got this card and it calibrates just fine in 3d3. I get > > > between > > > > 30-60 fps. But in GL I get 60fps starting out ( and a much better > > > picture) > > > > until the screen blacks out about 30 seconds after I start > driving. I > > > can > > > > hear sounds, but screen is black.I have set all the norm setting > for > > > GL, > > > > v-sync is turned off. System is AMD Atlon 1000, 30gig WD HD, 786 > > > PC-133 > > > > SDRAM, on-board SB-128. N4 is patched. Any suggestions would be > > > > appreciated as video is much better in GL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590 You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that you can run the latest for your other games. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kgyq7.1021$[email hidden]... > The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, which I > believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer ones > work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are known to > work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers in > Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the 7041 > driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still update your > Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the driver is > atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at www.rage3d.com. > If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to you. > > > > "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xdxq7.3512$[email hidden]... > > I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build is > > D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]... > > > N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Which > version > > > are you using? > > >

I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on my CD for the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas? "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9of5a6$pg5$[email hidden]...

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> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at > http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590 > > You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that you can run > the latest for your other games. > > > -- > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spammers> > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kgyq7.1021$[email hidden]... > > The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, which I > > believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer ones > > work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are known to > > work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers in > > Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the 7041 > > driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still update your > > Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the driver is > > atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at www.rage3d.com. > > If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to you. > > > > > > > > "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:xdxq7.3512$[email hidden]... > > > I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build is > > > D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]... > > > > N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Which > > version > > > > are you using? > > > > > > > >

In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075 driver. But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4 executable file, it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed one. Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the "7014" drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones that you need are the 7041, not 7014. "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and > re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on myCD for

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> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas? > "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9of5a6$pg5$[email hidden]... > > There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at > > http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590 > > > > You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that you

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> > the latest for your other games. > > > > > > -- > > > > Ian P > > <email invalid due to spammers> > > > > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:kgyq7.1021$[email hidden]... > > > The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075,

which I > > > believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newerones > > > work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers areknown to > > > work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch driversin > > > Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the7041 > > > driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can stillupdate your > > > Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for thedriver is > > > atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers atwww.rage3d.com. > > > If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file toyou. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:xdxq7.3512$[email hidden]... > > > > I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the buildis > > > > D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? > > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]... > > > > > N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions.Which

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> > > version > > > > > are you using? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again. Haqsau wrote:

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> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075 driver. > But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4 executable file, > it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed one. > Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the "7014" > drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones that you > need are the 7041, not 7014. > > > "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and >>re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on my >> > CD for > >>the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas? >>"Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:9of5a6$pg5$[email hidden]... >> >>>There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at >>>http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590 >>> >>>You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that you >>> > can run > >>>the latest for your other games. >>> >>> >>>-- >>> >>>Ian P >>><email invalid due to spammers> >>> >>> >>>"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>news:kgyq7.1021$[email hidden]... >>> >>>>The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, >>>> > which I > >>>>believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer >>>> > ones > >>>>work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are >>>> > known to > >>>>work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers >>>> > in > >>>>Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the >>>> > 7041 > >>>>driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still >>>> > update your > >>>>Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the >>>> > driver is > >>>>atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at >>>> > www.rage3d.com. > >>>>If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to >>>> > you. > >>>> >>>> >>>>"Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>news:xdxq7.3512$[email hidden]... >>>> >>>>>I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build >>>>> > is > >>>>>D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? >>>>>"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>>news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]... >>>>> >>>>>>N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. >>>>>> > Which > >>>>version >>>> >>>>>>are you using? >>>>>> >>> >> >

I tried it again and get to run about 1-4 laps and it locks up. Any more Ideas? pacernc wrote:

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> Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again. > > Haqsau wrote: > >> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075 driver. >> But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4 executable file, >> it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed one. >> Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the "7014" >> drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones that you >> need are the 7041, not 7014. >> >> >> "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> >>> I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and >>> re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on my >>> >> CD for >> >>> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas? >>> "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:9of5a6$pg5$[email hidden]... >>> >>>> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at >>>> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590 >>>> >>>> You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that you >>>> >> can run >> >>>> the latest for your other games. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Ian P >>>> <email invalid due to spammers> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:kgyq7.1021$[email hidden]... >>>> >>>>> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, >>>>> >> which I >> >>>>> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer >>>>> >> ones >> >>>>> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are >>>>> >> known to >> >>>>> work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers >>>>> >> in >> >>>>> Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the >>>>> >> 7041 >> >>>>> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still >>>>> >> update your >> >>>>> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the >>>>> >> driver is >> >>>>> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at >>>>> >> www.rage3d.com. >> >>>>> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to >>>>> >> you. >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>> news:xdxq7.3512$[email hidden]... >>>>> >>>>>> I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build >>>>>> >> is >> >>>>>> D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? >>>>>> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]... >>>>>> >>>>>>> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. >>>>>>> >> Which >> >>>>> version >>>>> >>>>>>> are you using? >>>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Oops, no, sorry. It works for me. The only thing I can suggest at this point is to ask your question in the forums at www.rage3d.com. There are some very well informed Radeon users there who can probably help you figure it out. "gsor1563" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I tried it again and get to run about 1-4 laps and it locks up. Any > more Ideas? > > pacernc wrote: > > > Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again. > > > > Haqsau wrote: > > > >> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075

driver. > >> But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4 executablefile, > >> it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installedone. > >> Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the"7014" > >> drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones thatyou

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> >> need are the 7041, not 7014. > >> > >> > >> "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:[email hidden]... > >> > >>> I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and > >>> re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on

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> >>> > >> CD for > >> > >>> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas? > >>> "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>> news:9of5a6$pg5$[email hidden]... > >>> > >>>> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at > >>>> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590 > >>>> > >>>> You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that

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> >>>> > >> can run > >> > >>>> the latest for your other games. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Ian P > >>>> <email invalid due to spammers> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>>> news:kgyq7.1021$[email hidden]... > >>>> > >>>>> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, > >>>>> > >> which I > >> > >>>>> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the

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> >>>>> > >> ones > >> > >>>>> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are > >>>>> > >> known to > >> > >>>>> work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers > >>>>> > >> in > >> > >>>>> Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the > >>>>> > >> 7041 > >> > >>>>> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still > >>>>> > >> update your > >> > >>>>> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the > >>>>> > >> driver is > >> > >>>>> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at > >>>>> > >> www.rage3d.com. > >> > >>>>> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to > >>>>> > >> you. > >> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>>>> news:xdxq7.3512$[email hidden]... > >>>>> > >>>>>> I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build > >>>>>> > >> is > >> > >>>>>> D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? > >>>>>> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]... > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. > >>>>>>> > >> Which > >> > >>>>> version > >>>>> > >>>>>>> are you using? > >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > >

For now you could try running in D3D. The Radeon seems just as fast in D3D as it does in OGL, doesn't quite look as nice but at least it's stable Ian P <email invalid due to spam> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Fkor7.91846$[email hidden]...

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> Oops, no, sorry. It works for me. The only thing I can suggest at this > point is to ask your question in the forums at www.rage3d.com. There > are some very well informed Radeon users there who can probably help you > figure it out. > > > "gsor1563" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I tried it again and get to run about 1-4 laps and it locks up. Any > > more Ideas? > > > > pacernc wrote: > > > > > Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again. > > > > > > Haqsau wrote: > > > > > >> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075 > driver. > > >> But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4 executable > file, > > >> it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed > one. > > >> Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the > "7014" > > >> drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones that > you > > >> need are the 7041, not 7014. > > >> > > >> > > >> "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >> news:[email hidden]... > > >> > > >>> I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and > > >>> re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on > my > > >>> > > >> CD for > > >> > > >>> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas? > > >>> "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >>> news:9of5a6$pg5$[email hidden]... > > >>> > > >>>> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at > > >>>> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590 > > >>>> > > >>>> You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that > you > > >>>> > > >> can run > > >> > > >>>> the latest for your other games. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> > > >>>> Ian P > > >>>> <email invalid due to spammers> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >>>> news:kgyq7.1021$[email hidden]... > > >>>> > > >>>>> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, > > >>>>> > > >> which I > > >> > > >>>>> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the > newer > > >>>>> > > >> ones > > >> > > >>>>> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are > > >>>>> > > >> known to > > >> > > >>>>> work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers > > >>>>> > > >> in > > >> > > >>>>> Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the > > >>>>> > > >> 7041 > > >> > > >>>>> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still > > >>>>> > > >> update your > > >> > > >>>>> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the > > >>>>> > > >> driver is > > >> > > >>>>> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at > > >>>>> > > >> www.rage3d.com. > > >> > > >>>>> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to > > >>>>> > > >> you. > > >> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >>>>> news:xdxq7.3512$[email hidden]... > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build > > >>>>>> > > >> is > > >> > > >>>>>> D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? > > >>>>>> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >>>>>> news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]... > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. > > >>>>>>> > > >> Which > > >> > > >>>>> version > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> are you using? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >

Must depend on other hardware or something, because for me OpenGL is much faster. I believe the original poster (whatever his name is today) said the same thing. "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ontqm$hf2$[email hidden]... > For now you could try running in D3D. The Radeon seems just as fast inD3D

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> as it does in OGL, doesn't quite look as nice but at least it's stable > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spam> > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Fkor7.91846$[email hidden]... > > Oops, no, sorry. It works for me. The only thing I can suggest at

this > > point is to ask your question in the forums at www.rage3d.com.There > > are some very well informed Radeon users there who can probably helpyou > > figure it out. > > > > > > "gsor1563" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I tried it again and get to run about 1-4 laps and it locks up.Any

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> > > more Ideas? > > > > > > pacernc wrote: > > > > > > > Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again. > > > > > > > > Haqsau wrote: > > > > > > > >> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075 > > driver. > > > >> But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4

executable > > file, > > > >> it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed > > one. > > > >> Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the > > "7014" > > > >> drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the onesthat

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> > you > > > >> need are the 7041, not 7014. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > >> news:[email hidden]... > > > >> > > > >>> I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled

and > > > >>> re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 wason

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> > my > > > >>> > > > >> CD for > > > >> > > > >>> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas? > > > >>> "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > >>> news:9of5a6$pg5$[email hidden]... > > > >>> > > > >>>> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at > > > >>>> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590 > > > >>>> > > > >>>> You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so

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> > you > > > >>>> > > > >> can run > > > >> > > > >>>> the latest for your other games. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Ian P > > > >>>> <email invalid due to spammers> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > >>>> news:kgyq7.1021$[email hidden]... > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using

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> > > >>>>> > > > >> which I > > > >> > > > >>>>> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the > > newer > > > >>>>> > > > >> ones > > > >> > > > >>>>> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers

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> > > >>>>> > > > >> 7041 > > > >> > > > >>>>> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still > > > >>>>> > > > >> update your > > > >> > > > >>>>> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for

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> > > >>>>> > > > >> driver is > > > >> > > > >>>>> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at > > > >>>>> > > > >> www.rage3d.com. > > > >> > > > >>>>> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file

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> > > >>>>> > > > >> you. > > > >> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > >>>>>

news:xdxq7.3512$[email hidden]... > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. thebuild

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> > > >>>>>> > > > >> is > > > >> > > > >>>>>> D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? > > > >>>>>> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > >>>>>> news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]... > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> Which > > > >> > > > >>>>> version > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> are you using? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

For me I got about the same framerate using either OGL or D3D, so you're probably right. Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Haqsau <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FCPr7.94774$[email hidden]...

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> Must depend on other hardware or something, because for me OpenGL is > much faster. I believe the original poster (whatever his name is today) > said the same thing. > > "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9ontqm$hf2$[email hidden]... > > For now you could try running in D3D. The Radeon seems just as fast in > D3D > > as it does in OGL, doesn't quite look as nice but at least it's stable > > > > Ian P > > <email invalid due to spam> > > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Fkor7.91846$[email hidden]... > > > Oops, no, sorry. It works for me. The only thing I can suggest at > this > > > point is to ask your question in the forums at www.rage3d.com. > There > > > are some very well informed Radeon users there who can probably help > you > > > figure it out. > > > > > > > > > "gsor1563" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I tried it again and get to run about 1-4 laps and it locks up. > Any > > > > more Ideas? > > > > > > > > pacernc wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again. > > > > > > > > > > Haqsau wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075 > > > driver. > > > > >> But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4 > executable > > > file, > > > > >> it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed > > > one. > > > > >> Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the > > > "7014" > > > > >> drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones > that > > > you > > > > >> need are the 7041, not 7014. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > >> news:[email hidden]... > > > > >> > > > > >>> I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled > and > > > > >>> re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was > on > > > my > > > > >>> > > > > >> CD for > > > > >> > > > > >>> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas? > > > > >>> "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > >>> news:9of5a6$pg5$[email hidden]... > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at > > > > >>>> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590 > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so > that > > > you > > > > >>>> > > > > >> can run > > > > >> > > > > >>>> the latest for your other games. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> -- > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Ian P > > > > >>>> <email invalid due to spammers> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > >>>> news:kgyq7.1021$[email hidden]... > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using > 7075, > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> which I > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the > > > newer > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> ones > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers > are > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> known to > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch > drivers > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> in > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from > the > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> 7041 > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> update your > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for > the > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> driver is > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> www.rage3d.com. > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file > to > > > > >>>>> > > > > >> you. > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> "Gary A. Sorrells" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > >>>>> > news:xdxq7.3512$[email hidden]... > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>> I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the > build > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >> is > > > > >> > > > > >>>>>> D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need? > > > > >>>>>> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > >>>>>> news:Rmcq7.83985$[email hidden]... > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >> Which > > > > >> > > > > >>>>> version > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> are you using? > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >