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OT: pricing and piracy

David G Fishe

OT: pricing and piracy

by David G Fishe » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00



Fisher"

> >A person doesn't score a single point with me due to their affiliation
with
> >any group, especially those mentioned above. I have no respect at all for
> >people who are weak and feel the need to align themselves with a group to
> >feel stronger, and who blindly follow the teachings and traditions of
that
> >group.

> >The killing of something for pleasure is wrong EVERYWHERE on this earth.
> >When it comes to this, man made boundaries drawn on a map mean nothing to
> >me.

> >I thank thee for your time,

> How could you be so far out in left field?  We were talking about killing
> animals to EAT - not just for pleasure/sport.  Are you a vegetarian?

Being against killing for pleasure is "out in left field"?

Ok.

In some parts of Africa for example, people unfortunately have to eat
whatever food is available. Most other people eat for "pleasure".

If people only ate an amount and type of food that was necessary for good
health (as dictated by nature), then we wouldn't collectively be so damn fat
(and getting fatter every day) and unhealthy.

David G Fisher

Bruce Kennewel

OT: pricing and piracy

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:00:00

As a former and current investor I can say that pouring money into anything
can be likened to flushing dollar bills down the toilet.  However, it can
just as easily be compared with having the reserve bank keep ones bank
account continually topped up. One takes one's chances.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> > An interesting....and alarming.....parallel to this is what is
happeneing
> > with Napster and MP3's.  The ultimate effect on the movie industry, let
> > alone the music industry, could be catastrophic, to the extent that,
worst
> > case scenario, nobody invests in either.

> As a lifelong musician and former punk rocker, I can't say that pouring
> money into the music industry does anything positive, but I do essentially
> agree with you.

> ~daxe

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Eldre

OT: pricing and piracy

by Eldre » Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:00:00


writes:

Eat right, exercise, stay in shape...die anyway...<g>

Eldred
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Eldre

OT: pricing and piracy

by Eldre » Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:00:00



>> How could you be so far out in left field?  We were talking about killing
>> animals to EAT - not just for pleasure/sport.  Are you a vegetarian?

>Being against killing for pleasure is "out in left field"?

>Ok.

The 'left field' comment was about your jump from talking about food to talking
about killing for pleasure.  Hey, I'm against 'sport' hunting, too.  If the
animals could use weapons too, *then* maybe it would be a sport...<g>

Eldred
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Uncle Feste

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by Uncle Feste » Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:00:00


> Eat right, exercise, stay in shape...die anyway...<g>

> Eldred

Really!!  Might as well enjoy your meals.  I'd sure hate to die for no
reason....<g>

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Joe6

OT: pricing and piracy

by Joe6 » Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:00:00


>An interesting....and alarming.....parallel to this is what is happeneing
>with Napster and MP3's.

I don't find the MP3/Napster thing at all alarming, except for the
astounding lack of insight and intelligence it implies throughout the
music industry.

Napster shows there's a tremendous desire in the market for people to
increase their music collection, and to increase the variety of music
they listen to.  Two enourmously valuable trends in any market, but
things that the recording inducstry currently makes very difficult for
consumers to do. If they had HALF a brain they'd recognize the net as
a tool that could revitalize the recording industry. It's not a threat
unless you're too dumb to take advantage of it.

Just one example. The average CD-purchasing consumer spends $100 per
year on music CDs. So the record company could offer free downloads of
any songs you want for a subscription fee of $10/month, and increase
their revenue right there - while at the same time operating the
greatest marketing operation of all time, where your customers are
encouraged to continually sample all of your new products.

Joe McGinn
_____________________
Radical Entertainment

Loosa

OT: pricing and piracy

by Loosa » Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I wholeheartedly agree. Hunting to survive is the unfortunate fact of life in
some places, albeit most of those peoples diets still depend principally on
vegetables.
Gorillas grow to 500lbs living in the same forests that humans sometimes live
in , and yet they live exclusively off of plants, so it is not like humans
would die without meat, its not a very efficient way of getting protein. It
would indeed be more sporting to at least go hunting with something less than a
rifle with a scope.
Bruce Kennewel

OT: pricing and piracy

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I must remember that the next time I feel a sense of deep satisfaction when
I swat a bothersome mozzie. I now see the light and will, instead, feel
deeply sorrowful.
In fact, I might simply berate it and shoo it outside.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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Bruce Kennewel

OT: pricing and piracy

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Yes, I do apologise for my error.  I should have realised that corporations
such as Sony, Time-Warner, Disney, Lucas Films etcetera and so forth ad
infnitum are into music and movies simply for the soul-warming experience.

Sorry for the mistake.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------



Bruce Kennewel

OT: pricing and piracy

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Eat for "pleasure"???
Sure, eating can be a most pleasurable experience......but I would estimate
that about 100% of us eat to exist.
If you wish to lay blame for the fact that humans are essentially carnivores
then please refer to either nature, your God (if you believe in same) or
some higher intelligence.

But don't blame US!

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------






> Fisher"

> > >A person doesn't score a single point with me due to their affiliation
> with
> > >any group, especially those mentioned above. I have no respect at all
for
> > >people who are weak and feel the need to align themselves with a group
to
> > >feel stronger, and who blindly follow the teachings and traditions of
> that
> > >group.

> > >The killing of something for pleasure is wrong EVERYWHERE on this
earth.
> > >When it comes to this, man made boundaries drawn on a map mean nothing
to
> > >me.

> > >I thank thee for your time,

> > How could you be so far out in left field?  We were talking about
killing
> > animals to EAT - not just for pleasure/sport.  Are you a vegetarian?

> Being against killing for pleasure is "out in left field"?

> Ok.

> In some parts of Africa for example, people unfortunately have to eat
> whatever food is available. Most other people eat for "pleasure".

> If people only ate an amount and type of food that was necessary for good
> health (as dictated by nature), then we wouldn't collectively be so damn
fat
> (and getting fatter every day) and unhealthy.

> David G Fisher

Bruce Kennewel

OT: pricing and piracy

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Fork and salad bowl, perhaps? :-)

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


John Wallac

OT: pricing and piracy

by John Wallac » Sat, 24 Jun 2000 04:00:00



That wasn't the point. In the US you, from necessity, eat cows, sheep,
pigs etc. In France they add horses, in Thailand they add dogs, in
Malaysia I've seen rat, monkey, bat, in Japan snake, whale ***
and various unsavoury parts of fish.

All out of necessity. In India you'd be strung up for eating a cow,
whereas you condemn a Thai for eating dog. Who is right and who is
wrong? You live by the rules of your country, and to judge someone
whose standards you don't understand by your own is the only thing
that's wrong.

In the west we tend not to eat cute things and get upset when others
do (dolphins, dogs, rabbits etc), but that doesn't make it wrong.

In general you'll find people in Asia a lot slimmer and healthier than
us over here in the west - so whose diet is wrong in that regard?
</rhetoric>

John

John Wallac

OT: pricing and piracy

by John Wallac » Sat, 24 Jun 2000 04:00:00


Haha, the first time I stand in front of a hungry lion and he decides
not to rip me apart out of preservation of the human species I'll
become a vegetarian.

Darwinism got mankind to the point we are, and now we are "so
advanced" we throw Darwinism out the window. Survival of the fittest
is no longer a human trait. Whether for better or for worse is moot.

John

David G Fishe

OT: pricing and piracy

by David G Fishe » Sat, 24 Jun 2000 04:00:00




> >Being against killing for pleasure is "out in left field"?

> That wasn't the point. In the US you, from necessity, eat cows, sheep,
> pigs etc. In France they add horses, in Thailand they add dogs, in
> Malaysia I've seen rat, monkey, bat, in Japan snake, whale ***
> and various unsavoury parts of fish.

> All out of necessity

Necessity?

LOL.

People choose what they eat with selfishness, no self control, and gluttony
being the deciding factors.

David G Fisher

Greg Cisk

OT: pricing and piracy

by Greg Cisk » Sat, 24 Jun 2000 04:00:00

To hell with all of that. What do you think about F1 2000?

:-)

--




> >The 'left field' comment was about your jump from talking about food to
talking
> >about killing for pleasure.  Hey, I'm against 'sport' hunting, too.  If
the
> >animals could use weapons too, *then* maybe it would be a sport...<g>

> Haha, the first time I stand in front of a hungry lion and he decides
> not to rip me apart out of preservation of the human species I'll
> become a vegetarian.

> Darwinism got mankind to the point we are, and now we are "so
> advanced" we throw Darwinism out the window. Survival of the fittest
> is no longer a human trait. Whether for better or for worse is moot.

> John


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