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by **Eldre** » Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:00

>> How about this Paul: in some parts of the world they routinely eat dogs.
>> If you killed a dog and ate it in this country you could be prosecuted for
>> that action. In those parts of the world you are simply feeding yourself
>by
>> doing something completely acceptable. Are the people in Thailand WRONG
>> simply because that action doesn't fit in in this culture?

>> ~daxe

>Yes. They are horribly wrong, and stupid. If someone tried to do that in
>front of me, they'd be eating my forearm.

>David G Fisher

You would forcefully attack someone for killing and eating a dog in THAILAND?
Just because it doesn't fit your values? In other words, it's not illegal
there, but you'd still punish them? Amazing...

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by **Eldre** » Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:00

writes:

If you killed and ate a cow in India, you'd be subject to serious punishment
also.
That same action happens all the time in the US, at least...
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by **Uncle Feste** » Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:00

> An interesting....and alarming.....parallel to this is what is happeneing
> with Napster and MP3's.

Thank you. A *perfect* example of sickening, corporate greed in the
extreme! On one side, we have multi-multi millionaires such as
Metallica and other big names. These greedy SOB's are worried to death
about a bunch of kids who would like to hear their songs for free. If
they can't begrudge them a few pence, when these "stars" are already
***ly wealthy to begin with, is just idiotic. Just as I stated once
before. Some things are legal, but just plain *wrong*. This is one of
those. :-(

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I think it's probably because they taste better, Jo.

(They can be taught to obey orders, in exactly yhe same way as a dog can be
trained.)

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> >> How about this Paul: in some parts of the world they routinely eat
dogs.
> >> If you killed a dog and ate it in this country you could be prosecuted
for
> >> that action. In those parts of the world you are simply feeding
yourself
> >by
> >> doing something completely acceptable. Are the people in Thailand
WRONG
> >> simply because that action doesn't fit in in this culture?

> >> ~daxe

> >Yes. They are horribly wrong, and stupid. If someone tried to do that in
> >front of me, they'd be eating my forearm.

> >David G Fisher

> Pigs are more intelligent than the smartest dog (scientifically tested!).
Yet we
> kill them by the millions in unspeakable circumstances. And why? Because
they
> don't obey orders and LOOK stupid.

> There's something seriously wrong with us, too, it seems..

> Just an observation.

> JoH

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

An interesting....and alarming.....parallel to this is what is happeneing
with Napster and MP3's. The ultimate effect on the movie industry, let
alone the music industry, could be catastrophic, to the extent that, worst
case scenario, nobody invests in either.

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Bruce Kennewell,
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by **The Enigmatic O** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Invests? Invests? You speak as if monitary gain is the only
conceivable reason to make music or movies. Friend, I pity you.

-Tim

by **The Enigmatic O** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

But usually smarter. And I hear they taste quite good. Dogs, that is.

-Tim

by **The Enigmatic O** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

A complete non-issue, here. Many other factors contributed to the
current sorry state of flight sims--piracy is not the problem. By your logic,
if I decide not to buy a flight sim game I'm just as guilty of killing the
genre. (I am, actually, as lost sales are lost sales. And I tend to buy
things when they go into the discount bin instead of new, making me a rather
non-helpful customer.)

-Tim

by **David G Fishe** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I agree 100%.

David G Fisher

by **David G Fishe** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

> >Yes. They are horribly wrong, and stupid. If someone tried to do that in
> >front of me, they'd be eating my forearm.

> Course they're not wrong - Japanese eat whale ***, there's a
> Frenchman who eats insects. The only thing that's wrong is to project
> one's own standards onto another culture and then judge them by it.

> Nowt to do with piracy though....

> John

You're right, this has nothing to do with piracy, so I'll make this my last
post on this thread.

As we all know, an immeasurable amount of horrible acts have been committed
in the name of culture, religion, race, and nationality.

A person doesn't score a single point with me due to their affiliation with
any group, especially those mentioned above. I have no respect at all for
people who are weak and feel the need to align themselves with a group to
feel stronger, and who blindly follow the teachings and traditions of that
group.

The killing of something for pleasure is wrong EVERYWHERE on this earth.
When it comes to this, man made boundaries drawn on a map mean nothing to
me.

I thank thee for your time,

David G Fisher

by **Racer8** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Not really......

There not selling those titles in the bargain bin at a loss I'll bet you
anything you want on that.

SO.............

If a title in the bargain bin can still bring a company a few bucks profit,
why not just release NEW titles at a price level that will cause more copies
to be sold initially?

I tell you right now there is next to nothing out there I'm paying 50 bucks
for as far as software goes. Get that number down around 25-30 bucks though
then I'll bite.

As far as music CD prices go this is one of the biggest freakin rip-offs
ever. How can you justify a media that cost pennies being priced higher than
a much more complicated type of media such as a audio cassette. Total horse
shit if you ask me.

by **Jo Hels** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

......

Hmmm... There's no way this thread is getting back on topic ever again
:-)

David, ultimately there is only a wrong/right because there are HUMAN
beings. You can't derive m***values from nature. So if man decides
that it is ok kill something for pleasure, then it IS ok.

As I see it, we just have trouble making our value system *consistent*
from a rational (as rational as possible) point of view.

Like: we don't want to kill baby seals because they look cute, but we
love killing sharks because they eat a human being every now and then
(which is VERY rare BTW). Ultimately they just act the way their
instinct tells them to, and there is no reason to condemn them.

Like: if an "innocent" child gets killed, we are more upset than when
an also totally innocent *** gets killed (just think about it: the
*** has had a chance to PROVE that he is a good person; the child
might have grown into a criminal)

Like: (anyone can go on many more pages..)

JoH

by **Bill Whit** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

>writes:

>>A person who thinks there is an immutable, absolute right and wrong equally
>>applicable to everyone is either too stupid to think/see outside their own
>>little world or has been brainwashed by some religious organization or both.

>>How about this Paul: in some parts of the world they routinely eat dogs.
>>If you killed a dog and ate it in this country you could be prosecuted for
>>that action. In those parts of the world you are simply feeding yourself by
>>doing something completely acceptable. Are the people in Thailand WRONG
>>simply because that action doesn't fit in in this culture?

>>~daxe

>If you killed and ate a cow in India, you'd be subject to serious punishment
>also.
>That same action happens all the time in the US, at least...
>Eldred

Well it boils down to one thing...you eat pork...beef..etc..etc
you will get clogged freaking arteries..and drop dead eventually
watch bacon as it has sit for several hours..coated in yes..thick
grease...and that shit loves to play hell on your arteries..just
ask the millions who have had by-pass...not to mention those
that drop dead where they stand.. If animals were as mobile as
us..we 'd been extinct long ago...because we'd be inferior:)

by **Eldre** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

>A person doesn't score a single point with me due to their affiliation with
>any group, especially those mentioned above. I have no respect at all for
>people who are weak and feel the need to align themselves with a group to
>feel stronger, and who blindly follow the teachings and traditions of that
>group.

>The killing of something for pleasure is wrong EVERYWHERE on this earth.
>When it comes to this, man made boundaries drawn on a map mean nothing to
>me.

>I thank thee for your time,

How could you be so far out in left field? We were talking about killing
animals to EAT - not just for pleasure/sport. Are you a vegetarian?

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by **Eldre** » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I usually do the same thing. Recently, I've been buying a lot of 'Collection'
packages. 3 or 4 games together for less than ONE of them was originally...

Eldred
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