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Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

paul lac

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by paul lac » Tue, 29 May 2001 23:13:24

www.avault.com/pcrl has the demo which is only 8 mb(!)  in size.

Paul

"It is by the goodness of God that we have in our country three
unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience,
and the prudence never to practice either"

   - Mark Twain

Alex Camero

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by Alex Camero » Wed, 30 May 2001 00:01:22


Tell Mark feadom of speech isn't always such a good thing:
http://www.halturnershow.com  a bit of a lack of prudence there

RenderedBri

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by RenderedBri » Wed, 30 May 2001 00:34:26



8mb! wow! thats a small file size for a demo!

Currently downloading!

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RenderedBri

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by RenderedBri » Wed, 30 May 2001 02:28:49





>> www.avault.com/pcrl has the demo which is only 8 mb(!)  in size.

> 8mb! wow! thats a small file size for a demo!

> Currently downloading!

Well, I have downloaded it, and given it a quick try.

It is "fun" but there are a few problems / issues though.

1) Damage modelling.  OK, so you can squish the chassis. But what about
things like suspension damage etc?

2) Collision detection.  If you run along side the barriers, your wheels
actually dissappear *into* the barrier!

Of course, this is a demo.

Are these issues fixed in the full version?

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Alan Bernard

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by Alan Bernard » Wed, 30 May 2001 02:47:02






> >> www.avault.com/pcrl has the demo which is only 8 mb(!)  in size.

> > 8mb! wow! thats a small file size for a demo!

> > Currently downloading!

> Well, I have downloaded it, and given it a quick try.

> It is "fun" but there are a few problems / issues though.

> 1) Damage modelling.  OK, so you can squish the chassis. But what about
> things like suspension damage etc?

> 2) Collision detection.  If you run along side the barriers, your wheels
> actually dissappear *into* the barrier!

Not sure about the other things, but your wheels do do as you say in the
retail.  But if you run***pit view, as one would think you would, then
this is not an issue.

Overall this is a nice title.  For the asking price, you can't beat it.

Alanb

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Tim

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by Tim » Wed, 30 May 2001 04:22:32

Actually pretty ironic you used that web site as an example, since
Mark Twain, AKA Samuel Clemens, wasn't fond of black people himself.
Had you read any of the real text of his work, you'd dislike him if
you dislike Hal Turner.

Tim





>> www.avault.com/pcrl has the demo which is only 8 mb(!)  in size.

>> Paul

>> "It is by the goodness of God that we have in our country three
>> unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience,
>> and the prudence never to practice either"

>>    - Mark Twain

>Tell Mark feadom of speech isn't always such a good thing:
>http://www.halturnershow.com  a bit of a lack of prudence there

Alex Camero

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by Alex Camero » Wed, 30 May 2001 05:12:08

Being form the UK I never had the American classics forced on me at school
;-) and I'd be worried if anyone in this group didn't dislike that Turner
bloke. I just can't believe that people get away with saying stuff like that
on radio if you offered views like that on UK radio you would get done and
maybe even jailed for inciting racial hatred, not that allot of people don't
think like that in this country :-(


> Actually pretty ironic you used that web site as an example, since
> Mark Twain, AKA Samuel Clemens, wasn't fond of black people himself.
> Had you read any of the real text of his work, you'd dislike him if
> you dislike Hal Turner.

> Tim





> >> www.avault.com/pcrl has the demo which is only 8 mb(!)  in size.

> >> Paul

> >> "It is by the goodness of God that we have in our country three
> >> unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience,
> >> and the prudence never to practice either"

> >>    - Mark Twain

> >Tell Mark feadom of speech isn't always such a good thing:
> >http://www.halturnershow.com  a bit of a lack of prudence there

Alan Bernard

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by Alan Bernard » Wed, 30 May 2001 07:05:18


I don't think there's any real, extant proof that Twain was a racist.  In
fact, I doubt that he was.  Twain's writings, far from being racist, were
simply the sign of the times.  Put Twain in modern day America, and he'd be
as appalled as any about some of the racial inequities still found in the
US.

Alanb

Tim

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by Tim » Wed, 30 May 2001 07:19:07



We never had Twain forced on us either. I read some of it outside of
school.

I had actually never heard (or heard of) Turner until you posted that
link. I don't understand 100% where he's coming from, but from what I
can tell he doesn't spout any more hate on his website than some of
his black contemporaries, like Nation Of Islam member Louis Farrakhan
<sp>.

I'm a firm believer in turning something off if you don't like it
instead of trying to legislate it out of existence. If it REALLY turns
you off, it's nice to know you have the right to speak your mind in
turn. Freedom of speech isn't a bad thing, IMO.

Tim

Thom j

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by Thom j » Wed, 30 May 2001 08:18:40

Brian that is exactly what I thought! Anymore a good sim/game has
at least 50megs if not a 100 for a good demo... odd?

| 8mb! wow! thats a small file size for a demo!
| Currently downloading!
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r

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by r » Wed, 30 May 2001 12:13:34

sorry,

what "real text are you referring to?  it can't be huck finn, the one most
people like to bash on account of one word.

rob



crossb..

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by crossb.. » Wed, 30 May 2001 13:30:32

The entire game itself is only 100MB.



>Brian that is exactly what I thought! Anymore a good sim/game has
>at least 50megs if not a 100 for a good demo... odd?


>| 8mb! wow! thats a small file size for a demo!
>| Currently downloading!
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Andre Warrin

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by Andre Warrin » Wed, 30 May 2001 17:57:55



Downloaded it and played it online with a couple of guys from VROC.
And we had some serious FUN, this is truly a GREAT game!
I'd rate it as an arcade racer though, as Henrie posted yesterday, you
can't control the car in the air. And 12 of these short tracks is a
bit on the small size, but for that money it's really a great game..
FUN FUN FUN :)

Andre

Tim

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by Tim » Wed, 30 May 2001 20:07:56



>sorry,

>what "real text are you referring to?  it can't be huck finn, the one most
>people like to bash on account of one word.

Rob, I'm sorry I'm not 100% clear, but I'm thinking it was The
Mysterious Stranger. His work is sprinkled with the most commonly
known "N" word, as well as "nabob", another derogatory term that
really isn't used anymore.

Clemens DID fight for the Confederate militia, but I understand he had
a change of heart regarding slavery. I just found it ironic that the
Hal Turner show reference was used against a Mark Twain quote.

Tim

GBB

Leadfoot demo only 8Mb

by GBB » Wed, 30 May 2001 21:25:37




> >sorry,

> >what "real text are you referring to?  it can't be huck finn, the one
most
> >people like to bash on account of one word.

> Rob, I'm sorry I'm not 100% clear, but I'm thinking it was The
> Mysterious Stranger. His work is sprinkled with the most commonly
> known "N" word, as well as "nabob", another derogatory term that
> really isn't used anymore.

> Clemens DID fight for the Confederate militia, but I understand he had
> a change of heart regarding slavery. I just found it ironic that the
> Hal Turner show reference was used against a Mark Twain quote.

> Tim

I didn't use it against the Twain quote as such just Americas idealistic
view of  their constitution and the fact that you are brainwashed into
thinking that your country is somehow freer then the rest of the world when
really it isn't, your freedom is doled out selectively i.e in the 50's
members of the communist party were rounded up and jailed, where was freedom
of speech and conscience for them? You had a system of apartheid up until
the 70's yet I have heard Americans talk about South Africa as a country
that was not free but has now seen the light.

You preach about democracy but you helped install terrible dictatorships in
countries like Chile overthrowing democratically elected socialist
governments. You still impose a blockade on Cuba a country where the life
expectancy of the population has gone up by 20 years since the 'peoples'
revolution overthrew your (and mine) system of greed and division for a
system of equality.

I know you'll all come back and defend your country to the hilt, I don't
know why there's not much about my country I would defend but I see allot
more good in it then yours. Just have the intelligence to look a bit
sideways at things and not to always see things the way you have been taught
to.

Sorry not very r.a.s I'll shut up now,


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