rec.autos.simulators

            If someone tells me "hey may you plese try to make a track" I will
attempt to make it. The fun is in the making.

            Its not a job. Its a hobbie. Its something you love to do. You know
what im saying?

Martyn_D

    Well Then....  Try to make the Glen with the Boot~!~!  ;-)

I can't imagine how many cool tracks we would have if we could simply
use a professional 3D editor on GPL tracks. I've been learning Maya at
work, and current 3D tools like this are incredibly powerful and
flexible. 3D editing isn't that complicated. It's a damn shame we
don't have an "iD" in the auto sim genre, a company that really
supports the mod community.

Joe McGinn
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Radical Entertainment

 >no different to building tracks generally speaking

It could, but the ego of many track creator is too big so they can give
their tools.  They can't accept that, for the sake of the community.  If
they gave what they had, be sure that all our fantasy in GPL would become
reality.

They are the martyr of the community!!! Look at all the hours they spend
creating them! <vbg>

-- eh
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Argh Cut that NONSENSE once and for all !!!!!!!!! Please!!!! What a load of
crap!

There is ONE reason while tools arent ublicly available now: Cheating!
giving those tools to everyone would mean the end of online racing as we
know it, you'd never be sure if racing would be fair. I'm VERY sure
everyone would think we'd be much worse off then. And I'm sure thats not
what you mean with "our fantasy in GPL would become reality".

So those ego- accusations are based on nothing. Better take your words
back.

Martijn

No it's the absolute truth.  Just compare what happened with GP2 with what
we have with GPL.  Better have 5good tracks/10 bad ones than just 1 good
track.

I for one know much and complained for a long time in this NG to Papyrus
about how easy it is to cheat in GPL.  I have facts backing me up (editing
the TRK is so easy), but the point is irrelevant.  We are not a "gamers"
community.  We have enough pride and Gentlemenship to NOT alter the tracks
we race on so we can have an advantage over the original ones.  This ain't
N3, it's GPL for Christ's sake.  Just look at GPLRank.  Everybody can cheat
and upload false laptimes but you bet that 99.9999% of us don't do it.  Just
look at an early thread on r.a.s. a couple of days ago about that subject,
you'll understand.  So why would it be different for tracks? It wouldn't.
The only point here is the ego.  Some guys want all the attention.

What the GPLEA guys considers the community as a bunch of gamers who try to
cheat? Poor.

Why can you simply create an utility that would _only_ create tracks and not
edit the current ones.  Thus, when you create a track the software would
know this is the only track you are allowed to edit.  Pretty easy these days
with encryption.

But don't go on bragging about "We are a martyr! Giving our tools would ruin
the community forever! So this way, only us can create tracks!***all you
gamers!".

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

On the other hand, the sly little posts about "I've driven banked Monza, and
it, sir, is no Indianapolis" can be a bit irritating.  There is a certain
air of superiority there.  If someone wants to "leak" the textureless, raw,
banked Monza track, maybe people would drive it and see that, indeed, it is
dead-dull, and would go back to eagerly awaiting Solitude etc.

S.

Ed_

"Just say No!"

Andre

YES!

:-)

Ed_

"Just say NO!"