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Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

Rory S. Brow

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Rory S. Brow » Sun, 15 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I have just received the Intergraph Reactor Video card and the frame
produced is not acceptable.  I achieved a frame rate in SVGA with all
options on of 9.  My Matrox Mystique Card produces 16-17 with the same
options.  The support center informed me that there was no hope for
significant improvement.  There would be only some improvement when some
new drivers come out.  Also, the Rendition ICR2 is a little fuzzy and it
runs slower than the ICR2 for dos from the new win'95 version.  It also
seems to me that it runs with the same understeer problem as the original
ICR2.  I have noticed that the ICR2 for dos from the win95 version handles
alot better.  I play this game with a Hyper Stimulator which is fantastic
to use.  On play back the Rendition ICR2 also has the helmet colors and
design changing all the time.  My computer is a Dell Pentium XPS P200s with
64MB of SDRAM.  If some one knows a fix to the Reactor with GP2 for which
their tech support doesn't know, please let me know.

August Branches

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by August Branches » Sun, 15 Dec 1996 04:00:00

This is the most ridiculous post I've seen.  My friend, you have a problem
but it is not your reactor card.  I have a reactor and GP2 gets a much
higher framerate than what you are talking about.  Did you really talk to
Intergraphs Tech Support ?  They are known for their excellence in customer
support and I find it hard to believe they would accept a framerate of 9 as
tolerable.

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August Branchesi
Systems Programmer / Apex Mrsketing Group
http://members.visi.net/~muja



Mike Grand

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Mike Grand » Sun, 15 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> I have just received the Intergraph Reactor Video card and the frame
> produced is not acceptable.  I achieved a frame rate in SVGA with all
> options on of 9.  My Matrox Mystique Card produces 16-17 with the same
> options.  The support center informed me that there was no hope for
> significant improvement.  There would be only some improvement when some
> new drivers come out.  Also, the Rendition ICR2 is a little fuzzy and it
> runs slower than the ICR2 for dos from the new win'95 version.  It also
> seems to me that it runs with the same understeer problem as the original
> ICR2.  I have noticed that the ICR2 for dos from the win95 version handles
> alot better.  I play this game with a Hyper Stimulator which is fantastic
> to use.  On play back the Rendition ICR2 also has the helmet colors and
> design changing all the time.  My computer is a Dell Pentium XPS P200s with
> 64MB of SDRAM.  If some one knows a fix to the Reactor with GP2 for which
> their tech support doesn't know, please let me know.

I use a dell166 with 32 MB ram and a reactor card. My frame rate is 37
fps in Renddma version.
simrac..

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by simrac.. » Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:00:00



>>I use a dell166 with 32 MB ram and a reactor card. My frame rate is 37
>>fps in Renddma version.

Um...come again?  I seriously doubt this bit of whimsical fancy, since
the internal limit is 30.  Only ICR2-3D has a switchable limiter, and
the frame-rate counter never worked properly so it was removed during
beta.  Wouldn't hurt to check the facts before boasting performance
figures.

Marc J. Nelson
Sim Racing News

Dyno Do

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Dyno Do » Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:00:00

On Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:57:43 -0500, Mike Grandy



>> I have just received the Intergraph Reactor Video card and the frame
>> produced is not acceptable.  I achieved a frame rate in SVGA with all
>> options on of 9.  

Me too. I have a fairly fast 166

Ok...I bite. Where is the "RENDDMA" version of GP2? You don't mean
ICR2 do you? I have great results with the Reactor and the bundled
ICR2. Nascar 2 runs great too, but sadly, GP2 reports a very low
estimated frame rate.

-=Don=-

Glen Zielinsk

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Glen Zielinsk » Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:00:00

 Nascar 2 runs great too, but sadly, GP2 reports a very low

Fine, but that's just the estimated rate, which is based on the vga
performance (which sucks on the verite). From other reports I've seen,
this should have nothing to do with your actual svga performance, since
the reactor cooks in svga. Uncheck the "use estimate" box, and crank up
the framerate, and see what happens.

Mike Boic

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Mike Boic » Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> On Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:57:43 -0500, Mike Grandy


> >> I have just received the Intergraph Reactor Video card and the frame
> >> produced is not acceptable.  I achieved a frame rate in SVGA with all
> >> options on of 9.

> Me too. I have a fairly fast 166

> >I use a dell166 with 32 MB ram and a reactor card. My frame rate is 37
> >fps in Renddma version.

> Ok...I bite. Where is the "RENDDMA" version of GP2? You don't mean
> ICR2 do you? I have great results with the Reactor and the bundled
> ICR2. Nascar 2 runs great too, but sadly, GP2 reports a very low
> estimated frame rate.

> -=Don=-

I need to buy this game, I guess.  My impression from previous posts
in this group is that GP2 _predicts_ a low frame rate for Verite-based
boards (probably based on the VGA performance) but appears to perform
quite well in SVGA.  Does the game look slow, or is it just reporting
a low frame rate?

 - Mike Boich
Rendition

Sal V

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Sal V » Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> I have just received the Intergraph Reactor Video card and the frame
> produced is not acceptable.

SNIP>>>>>

Rory,

I don't understand why your having problems but I just got the Reactor and
all of my RACING SIMS run much FASTER including Nascar-1, Nascar-2, GP-2 and
ICR-2 (rendition version).  Although GP-2 reports slower est. framerate and
lower score in GP2LOG.TXT (which is actually VGA not SVGA) it runs MUCH
faster and reports on average about 10-15% LESS processor occupancy!  I went
from a Diamond Stealth-64 w/2 megs DRAM to the Reactor w/4 megs and It's a
very BIG improvement.  Even CBENCH reports higher scores in SVGA!

Sal V.

Hen

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Hen » Mon, 16 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> On Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:57:43 -0500, Mike Grandy


> >> I have just received the Intergraph Reactor Video card and the frame
> >> produced is not acceptable.  I achieved a frame rate in SVGA with all
> >> options on of 9.

> Me too. I have a fairly fast 166

> >I use a dell166 with 32 MB ram and a reactor card. My frame rate is 37
> >fps in Renddma version.

> Ok...I bite. Where is the "RENDDMA" version of GP2? You don't mean
> ICR2 do you? I have great results with the Reactor and the bundled
> ICR2. Nascar 2 runs great too, but sadly, GP2 reports a very low
> estimated frame rate.

Estimated frame rate has nothing to do with the actual frame rate,
because, as we all know, VGA core of Verite is very slow and that's
the only thing GP2 looks at when determing the 'estimation'.
I have a P200 and set all the graphics and textures on except sky
texture, set the frame rate to 19,2fps. I get processor occupancy
of 60-70% in Magny Cours and other fairly 'flat' tracks. Monaco
gives me PO of 130-150% with these settings. And note that my
estimated frame rate is around 11fps ...
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Anton Vos

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Anton Vos » Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:00:00


I agree. Its basically a problem with the way GP2 estimates framerates. The
framerate estimate in the game does NOT reflect the actual framerate when
playing when using a Reactor, 3D Blaster etc. In fact I am very confident
that my 3D Blaster sped the game up marginally when it replaced my s3 trio
64.

Anton Voss

JNR

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by JNR » Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Hi I just got the Reactor card from Intergraph and Indycar II.

I was wondering if somebody has tried to use the Indycar II that the
card came with in another PC ( my case its a P100 w/ an ATI 64 card
2meg) and got it to work ??( Im thinking of doing the null cable setup)

Im also hoping this setup will work w/ the Quake shareware that it came
with also..

I dont really care about graphics on the other PC just as long as it can
work w/ my main PC.

THanxs !!!

JNR

Eric T. Busc

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Eric T. Busc » Tue, 17 Dec 1996 04:00:00

It should work, you just will not be able to run the Rendition versions
of either on the second machine.  You will not be able to race at the 5
enhanced tracks, as they will not run on the other machine.  

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Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/



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Dyno Do

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Dyno Do » Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:00:00



No it looks like it is running faster than before. If I can tear my
self away from Rendition Ncar2 & Icar2 I'll do some real tests with
Processor Occupancy    -=Don=-

Darryl Woodle

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Darryl Woodle » Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Eric, I loaded the Intergraph card and it works fine in Win95. When I go
to dos though, it puts funny characters all over my screen. Some of the
text is in the correct place, so I can sorta make out what is on screen.
Dos functions work still, so I can run N2, and it works fine. Then when
I exit from a dos program to the dos prompt, this character error is
fixed. Until the next time I leave windows and go to dos. Have you heard
of this problem?  

Darryl Woodley

Eric T. Busc

Don't buy the Intergraph Reactor card for GP2

by Eric T. Busc » Wed, 18 Dec 1996 04:00:00

What BIOS revision are you using (look at the splash screen while
booting)?

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Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/




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