rec.autos.simulators

> I am very close to buying a T2 to play nascar/indycar with.  I am coming
> from a Ch flightstick...will playing NASCAR be like learning the game
> over with?  I don't drive..(I'm 14), and just curious as to how hard it
> will be to learn the T2.

>Subject: Re: Going to a T2 from a joystick
>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:15:32 GMT

>>> I am very close to buying a T2 to play nascar/indycar with.  I am coming
>>> from a Ch flightstick...will playing NASCAR be like learning the game
>>> over with?  I don't drive..(I'm 14), and just curious as to how hard it
>>> will be to learn the T2.

>>I find it much easier to draft with the use of the pedals.  This is
>>especiall true at Dega, where you never want to lift on the gas.
>>Insetad you can just tap the brake allwoing to to keep in the draft
>>without ever lifting off the gas.  

>Hi Eric.  Actually, if you draft this way, by braking instead of
>lifting off the gas pedal, you'll never make 50 laps on 1 tank of gas.
>It is possible to get 50 laps on 22 gallons if you draft the whole
>time, but you need to get your mpg up over 6.00 consistently and the
>only way to do so is by drafting.
>Of course, few races at Dega go 50 laps under green, so this often
>isn't a consideration, but you never know.
>Bill.

>Bill,
>Well that's how it would work in the real world, but here in Sim-land
>things don't look like they would be that easy.  If you look at your
>pedal calibration, pressing the brake seems to do exactly the same thing
>as lifting off the gas does.  When you press the gas pedal to the floor,
>the pointer will quite obviously go to one side of the calibration
>meter.  Then when you lightly press the brake, it will cause the pointer
>to shift back towards the center.  If both pedals are fully depressed
>the pointer will remain centered.  It's effectively like neither is
>being pressed (although for me it favors the brake a little).  
[snip a little]

> > Hi Eric.  Actually, if you draft this way, by braking instead of
> > lifting off the gas pedal, you'll never make 50 laps on 1 tank of gas.
> > It is possible to get 50 laps on 22 gallons if you draft the whole
> > time, but you need to get your mpg up over 6.00 consistently and the
> > only way to do so is by drafting.

> Bill,

> Well that's how it would work in the real world, but here in Sim-land
> things don't look like they would be that easy.  If you look at your
> pedal calibration, pressing the brake seems to do exactly the same thing
> as lifting off the gas does.  When you press the gas pedal to the floor,
> the pointer will quite obviously go to one side of the calibration
> meter.  Then when you lightly press the brake, it will cause the pointer
> to shift back towards the center.  If both pedals are fully depressed
> the pointer will remain centered.  It's effectively like neither is
> being pressed (although for me it favors the brake a little).

> Perhaps this is not how the pedals work during the race, but it seems
> like they would to me.

> --

> > This doesn't seem entirely correct to me Eric, I've also been using
> > the brake while drafting, and the difference between doing that and
> > easing up on the accelerator is astounding.  Perhaps it's just a
> > question of the amount of pressure relieved from the accelerator that
> > is the key, but it's tough to judge, and if you lift once it takes
> > awhile to get back up to speed.  I think also that breaking while
> > accelerating may bring the calibration pointer back towards center,
> > along the lines of both pedals all the way to the max should even you
> > out at center.

> > Anyway, I'd be curious to find out more info on this, maybe we can get
> > a response from some of the tech guys out there.

> > Matt Myers

> If you look at a calibration software, you can see that pressing both
> pedal will have the same output as pressing none. In other words, if you
> accelerate 100% and brake 30%, it is exactly the same as pressing the
> accelerator 70%

> JFD

> I am very close to buying a T2 to play nascar/indycar with.  I am coming
> from a Ch flightstick...will playing NASCAR be like learning the game
> over with?  I don't drive..(I'm 14), and just curious as to how hard it
> will be to learn the T2.

> Raymond Loyola

> Hold up...pointer? Calibration pointer?  You lost me there...sorry..