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Well at least what you say about the cops really sounds nice, I will
probably buy NFS3 at least to see the cops in action, I hope that feature
will make the game a keeper, but I still really hope EA comes to their
senses and adds at least the***pit mode in the PC version, and if they
really want a sure hit on their hands go really crazy and give us a
couple of open circuits :)

Again thanks for the preview, good to know ahead of time what to expect
so I do not get disappointed when I install NFS3 like I did with NFS2.

Cheers.
--John
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If you wish to parse my sentences one by one you would obviously draw
this conclusion.  But since you respond below to the REST of what I
said, I can't help but wonder whether you're deliberately slicing my
sentences into isolated bits so that you can find an excuse to
deliberately misinterpret them.

TO YOU.

I disagree.  There is no rhythm on an open road course.

Randy

Joe

I guess you never drive real cars on real streets then, if you think
there's no rythm to it.

Joe

"Real driving" is wherever you take it! If you are on a non-looped course,
the rhythm (note spelling) is quite different from the rhythm you would
develop on a closed course. I just can't see myself _developing_ a rhythm
on a non-loop. We must be thinking very different ideas.

A challenge, then. It's plain how one develops a rhythm (note spelling) on
a track that repeats itself. The key in doing well on, say, a Formula 1
course is in establishing a pattern on which you improve every time you
go around. The more you absorb the track details, the better your sense of
rhythm because you're trying to build on constants.

Explain how you apply rhythm to a non-looped street course where so little
(in comparison) is the same.

He did.  If the open course is like the ones in NFS1, the amount of
lefts and rights is about equal.  In a loop course, you're turning more
lefts than rights or vice versa.

You guys are just using different applications of the word.  He means
rhythm bend to bend, and you mean rhthym lap to lap.

That said, I vastly prefer loops.  My goal is to get into a trance when
playing, and many laps on one circuit does that very well.

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 -Ken
Magic 8-Ball sez: As I see it yes

It's the rythm of real driving. You do drive the course more than
once, so you get a feel for the road. I remember the old NFS1 coastal
track, there were stretchs of that that were a bit hazardous, but once
you got the rythm of the turns down you could fly through it.

Joe

A very nice chap -- so don't be mean w/him ...

If you were to visit my Need For Speed site
(http://members.aol.com/speed1racr/html/nfs_main.htm) [which by the way
is no longer being updated] and view the TRACK ARCHIVE for NFS-1, you
will see that MORE tracks were made to replace the "SEGMENT" tracks than
the "CIRCUIT" tracks.

No one can prove whether "more" people want which type of track, but it
is obvious that more of ONE type of track were modified and released.

Just my $.02

Doug Burg

demo, website ??

Thanks,
Doug

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COMPLETELY AGREED!!!

Just played NFSIII on the Playstation, it is just a joke(I will call it
NFS2.5)...... the Pursuit mode is the best of the game, otherwise, it
sucks.....

If there is a port of Gran Turismo to the PC with the addtion of European
cars, I would say that can be easily be the 99% Perfect auto sim.

For those who don't know about Gran Turismo, it is a Japanese Playstation
auto sim that has 140+(146??) REAL WORLD cars simulated(From Honda, Subaru,
Nissan, Toyota, Mitsu, Mazda, Chrysler, TVR, Chevolet, and Aston Martin)
plus their appropiate Tune-up vendors(Mugen, MazdaSpeed, Nismo, TSD, STi,
RallyArt, etc.) You have to take racing license exams, race and earn money
for upgrades and mods. Mods include turbos, intercooler, brakes, polishing
ports, chips, lighter cylinder, exhaust headers, exhausts, suspensions,
tires, racing body, and more. For example, you can buy an Accord and max it
out to a 300hp race car(which is available in REAL WORLD). The handling is
unique for each car; by playing it, you can tell MR2 is Mid-engined, Prelude
is frontwheeled, and even how much better is the new model to the old model.
The tracks are race track alike, I even suspect some are modelled after some
Japanese automaker's test tracks. I played it once, and stopped playing any
car sim on my PC thereafter.

NFSIII is not really that bad, but look at the tracks..........you call it a
simulator???? When was the last time you see a $700,000 exoctic car flying
around like a stunt car????

Hey EA/NFS people!! Listen up. You've seriously overdone it!! Next time,
give us Suzuka, Silver Stone, Laguna Seca, Monde Carlo or at least some
roads you can drive on it, instead of those sh*t come from nowhere.
Simulation is what we wanted, and that means if it is too far from the real
world, then forget it. You've done it once, and please do it at least one
more time.

Not so patiently waiting for the next ultimate driving sim.