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GPL + Voodoo3... Any Tweaks To Improve Frame Rates?

Phillip McNell

GPL + Voodoo3... Any Tweaks To Improve Frame Rates?

by Phillip McNell » Mon, 21 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Depends what you're getting atm. GPL is fr locked at 36 so you should
never get better than that.

Mirrors to just cars and track

Detail slider no more than about 1/4 the way from the left or less.
This is a real frame rate killer but doesn't add much to what you see
anyway.

All momentary special effects off, smoke, dirt, etc. These things will
actually blind you in races anyway. Not good to do serious races with.

Spec. Highlights etc turned off too. Makes little differance.

Turm arms off,***pit detail off, clouds can go.

With your system and the above you should be right at 1024x768

Regards

Phillip McNelley

de_sheph..

GPL + Voodoo3... Any Tweaks To Improve Frame Rates?

by de_sheph.. » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Agree with most comments below - I've just moved from V2 to V3
(2000) with a P3-450 and seen similar improvements.

Detail slider does have a big effect as I tried moving it all the way to
the right to see whta happened and fps dived.

I still use the "mirrors patch" with mirror refressh rate at 1/3rd front
view - extra forward fps is much more worthwhile. Also I set mirrors to
cars and track only.

Couple of other points

- I found no significant fps change by moving from "all" objects to
"many"

- also found no significant improvements from overclocking to V3 (i.e.
I'm not losing anything from having 2000 and not 3000 or 3500!)

1024x768 is no problem with practice. "back of grid at monte carlo"
needs to OC CPU to around 550MHz to get 30+ fps at start.



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GPL + Voodoo3... Any Tweaks To Improve Frame Rates?

by J » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Stop when you reach a solid 36fps during race with a full field.

Reduce detail slider to half
reduce details in mirrors
Mirror refresh by half (where can I find that utillity?)
skidmarks, smoke, sparks,.. off

should be enough.

Jens


>Hello!  I recently upgraded my 450 MHZ PII, 128 RAM system from a Creative Labs
>Voodoo 2 PCI Bus 3D video card to the 3DFX Voodoo3 2D/3D AGP bus video card.  
>Frame rates improved approximately 25% in GPL with the upgrade.  I'm using the
>latest drivers downloaded from 3DFX.  Any tweakes/changes that I can
>make that can further improve frame rates in GPL?  Thank you for your
>assistance and help!

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GPL + Voodoo3... Any Tweaks To Improve Frame Rates?

by BendsMaste » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I don't know how you have your pc configured but I have a pII 450 o/c
to 504mhz and a non o/c v3. I have solid 36fps all the way with the
detail slider about 20% to the left. I have all options on apart from
crowds, and drivers arms (it distracts me), and the mirrors are set to
show cars and track only. With 12 cars I am able to have the detail
slider all the way to the right with solid 36fps.
I also have another pc, a pII 333 o/c to 500mhz with 12mb V2 SLI, and
have similar performance. Both pc/s have 128mb pc100 ram, and I have
practically nothing running in the background when I am ***.
Lots of memory and processing power will give solid 36fps in GPL, as
for the V3 I've had it o/c with a pentium fan stuck to it, but I only
gained fps once I o/c my processor. As for the V2 overclocking it just
reduces it life spam and stability to about 60%.
With a P3-450 I would expect much better performance than what your
guys are getting. You should definitely aim for more as you have
enough processing power there for the job.

Mauricio.

>Agree with most comments below - I've just moved from V2 to V3
>(2000) with a P3-450 and seen similar improvements.

>Detail slider does have a big effect as I tried moving it all the way to
>the right to see whta happened and fps dived.

>I still use the "mirrors patch" with mirror refressh rate at 1/3rd front
>view - extra forward fps is much more worthwhile. Also I set mirrors to
>cars and track only.

>Couple of other points

>- I found no significant fps change by moving from "all" objects to
>"many"

>- also found no significant improvements from overclocking to V3 (i.e.
>I'm not losing anything from having 2000 and not 3000 or 3500!)

>1024x768 is no problem with practice. "back of grid at monte carlo"
>needs to OC CPU to around 550MHz to get 30+ fps at start.



>> Depends what you're getting atm. GPL is fr locked at 36 so you should
>> never get better than that.

>> Mirrors to just cars and track

>> Detail slider no more than about 1/4 the way from the left or less.
>> This is a real frame rate killer but doesn't add much to what you see
>> anyway.

>> All momentary special effects off, smoke, dirt, etc. These things will
>> actually blind you in races anyway. Not good to do serious races with.

>> Spec. Highlights etc turned off too. Makes little differance.

>> Turm arms off,***pit detail off, clouds can go.

>> With your system and the above you should be right at 1024x768

>> Regards

>> Phillip McNelley

>> >Hello!  I recently upgraded my 450 MHZ PII, 128 RAM system from a
>Creative Labs
>> >Voodoo 2 PCI Bus 3D video card to the 3DFX Voodoo3 2D/3D AGP bus
>video card.
>> >Frame rates improved approximately 25% in GPL with the upgrade.  I'm
>using the
>> >latest drivers downloaded from 3DFX.  Any tweakes/changes that I can
>> >make that can further improve frame rates in GPL?  Thank you for your
>> >assistance and help!

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GPL + Voodoo3... Any Tweaks To Improve Frame Rates?

by J » Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Where can I find the mirror-tool and what's the name?

TIA

Jens

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Eldre

GPL + Voodoo3... Any Tweaks To Improve Frame Rates?

by Eldre » Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:00:00




>I don't know how you have your pc configured but I have a pII 450 o/c
>to 504mhz and a non o/c v3. I have solid 36fps all the way with the
>detail slider about 20% to the left. I have all options on apart from
>crowds, and drivers arms (it distracts me), and the mirrors are set to
>show cars and track only. With 12 cars I am able to have the detail
>slider all the way to the right with solid 36fps.

What resolution?  I must have missed that in a previous message...

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GPL + Voodoo3... Any Tweaks To Improve Frame Rates?

by thomas180.. » Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I have done the tweaks below - except for the sparks and smoke and so
on - and found great improvement in framerates

THANK YOU

I will now go and underclock my Voodoo 3 back to normal speed

Thomas Soerensen
GPL Enthusiast of Denmark



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GPL + Voodoo3... Any Tweaks To Improve Frame Rates?

by RS » Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:00:00


> I have done the tweaks below - except for the sparks and smoke and so
> on - and found great improvement in framerates

> THANK YOU

> I will now go and underclock my Voodoo 3 back to normal speed

> Thomas Soerensen
> GPL Enthusiast of Denmark



> > Depends what you're getting atm. GPL is fr locked at 36 so you should
> > never get better than that.

> > Mirrors to just cars and track

> > Detail slider no more than about 1/4 the way from the left or less.
> > This is a real frame rate killer but doesn't add much to what you see
> > anyway.

> > All momentary special effects off, smoke, dirt, etc. These things will
> > actually blind you in races anyway. Not good to do serious races with.

> > Spec. Highlights etc turned off too. Makes little differance.

> > Turm arms off,***pit detail off, clouds can go.

> > With your system and the above you should be right at 1024x768

> > Regards

> > Phillip McNelley

> > >Hello!  I recently upgraded my 450 MHZ PII, 128 RAM system from a
> Creative Labs
> > >Voodoo 2 PCI Bus 3D video card to the 3DFX Voodoo3 2D/3D AGP bus
> video card.
> > >Frame rates improved approximately 25% in GPL with the upgrade.  I'm
> using the
> > >latest drivers downloaded from 3DFX.  Any tweakes/changes that I can
> > >make that can further improve frame rates in GPL?  Thank you for
> your
> > >assistance and help!

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GPL + Voodoo3... Any Tweaks To Improve Frame Rates?

by bph.. » Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Disabling vsync makes a diff.  As much as 10fps, but only 2 on mine.



> Stop when you reach a solid 36fps during race with a full field.

> Reduce detail slider to half
> reduce details in mirrors
> Mirror refresh by half (where can I find that utillity?)
> skidmarks, smoke, sparks,.. off

> should be enough.

> Jens



> >Hello! I recently upgraded my 450 MHZ PII, 128 RAM system from a
Creative Labs

> >Voodoo 2 PCI Bus 3D video card to the 3DFX Voodoo3 2D/3D AGP bus
video card.
> >Frame rates improved approximately 25% in GPL with the upgrade. I'm
using the
> >latest drivers downloaded from 3DFX. Any tweakes/changes that I can
> >make that can further improve frame rates in GPL? Thank you for your
> >assistance and help!

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