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by **Randy Peppl** » Sun, 17 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Ed

Does this mean in Canada too? I spent $310 during my first month
of open beta testing. I enjoyed it immensly, but my wife doesnt
like the bills too much :)))

Randy Peppler
Prince George, BC, Canada

by **Randy Peppl** » Sun, 17 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Ed

Does this mean local access numbers in Canada?
I sure hope so. I payed 310 bucks for my first month
on the open beta test. It was WELL worth it for entertainment
value in my book, but my wife didnt think so :)))

Randy Peppler
Borderline Racing
Prince George, BC, Canada

by **Eric T. Busc** » Sun, 17 Nov 1996 04:00:00

If it's just a regular modem call (like the current Hawaii system),
then I don't see why the NRL front-end would need to be a Win95
application. But because it is being developed as a Win95 app, it
stands to reason that the NRL will use TCP/IP connection through
Win95's dial-up networking. I would assume that the long delay in
getting the system running is a result of efforts to reduce latency.
If this proves to be the case, anyone with a local call to an ISP will
have local access to the NRL.

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by **John William Flowers I** » Sun, 17 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Bad news folks, a couple of days ago my father mentioned to me that
there is a big meeting in Washington D.C. to discuss whether or not
local phone companies can charge fees for internet use. Hopefully not!!
I know that many other countries already have this, but I don't like the
idea. There is a lot more to this then what is posted. My father saved
the article in the paper so as soon as I get it I will post it here and
on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flt-sim. I'll keep you posted.

Regards,
John

by **Rhett Lan** » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00

>If it's just a regular modem call (like the current Hawaii system),
>then I don't see why the NRL front-end would need to be a Win95
>application. But because it is being developed as a Win95 app, it
>stands to reason that the NRL will use TCP/IP connection through
>Win95's dial-up networking. I would assume that the long delay in
>getting the system running is a result of efforts to reduce latency.
>If this proves to be the case, anyone with a local call to an ISP will
>have local access to the NRL.
>--

>Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
>Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

>> Does this mean local access numbers in Canada?
>> I sure hope so. I payed 310 bucks for my first month
>> on the open beta test. It was WELL worth it for entertainment
>> value in my book, but my wife didnt think so :)))

According to the TEN multiplayer provider, They have exclusive rights
to the NRL. From what I understand we will have to join them to race.

by **Robert Johnso** » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00

http://www.ten.net/html/ten__company_info.html

According to the link above, Papyrus is currently partnering with TEN. It
doesn't mention anything about Sierra though...

And according to the pricing plan I saw, it is $30 a month for unlimited
play time. Yes, this is much cheaper than the $100+ phone bills to play on
Hawaii... man, there goes another hunk of change.

There is a $10 month plan, but you only get 5 hours a month, with each
additional hour costing $0.95.

So, you wanted to know the price for NRL? If the info at the above URL can
be believed, this is how much.

Robert

by **Richard Walk** » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00

I wonder what the latency would be from the UK? ;-)

Cheers,
Richard

by **Sean Graha** » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00

> > According to the TEN multiplayer provider, They have exclusive rights
> > to the NRL. From what I understand we will have to join them to race.

> http://www.ten.net/html/ten__company_info.html

> According to the link above, Papyrus is currently partnering with TEN. It
> doesn't mention anything about Sierra though...

> And according to the pricing plan I saw, it is $30 a month for unlimited
> play time. Yes, this is much cheaper than the $100+ phone bills to play on
> Hawaii... man, there goes another hunk of change.

> There is a $10 month plan, but you only get 5 hours a month, with each
> additional hour costing $0.95.

> So, you wanted to know the price for NRL? If the info at the above URL can
> be believed, this is how much.

> Robert

I find that hard to believe. I mean the latency is just brutal on TEN
unless you have a very fast connection. I can't even play Command &
Conquer or Duke Nukem on TEN because MR.Bandwidth says no go. Thats with
a 28,800 connection.

Maybe with the new cable internet connections.

by **Robert Johnso** » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00

><more stuff>

> > http://www.ten.net/html/ten__company_info.html

> I find that hard to believe. I mean the latency is just brutal on TEN
> unless you have a very fast connection. I can't even play Command &
> Conquer or Duke Nukem on TEN because MR.Bandwidth says no go. Thats with
> a 28,800 connection.

I didn't create the document I found on TEN, I just read it. And while the
TEN people say they are partnering with Papyrus, they don't say what they
are partnering for. I just put two and two together. Perhaps, hopefully,
the answer isn't four.

Do you have any info on these connections? I haven't read about them.

Robert

by **Rhett Lan** » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00

>>If it's just a regular modem call (like the current Hawaii system),
>>then I don't see why the NRL front-end would need to be a Win95
>>application. But because it is being developed as a Win95 app, it
>>stands to reason that the NRL will use TCP/IP connection through
>>Win95's dial-up networking. I would assume that the long delay in
>>getting the system running is a result of efforts to reduce latency.
>>If this proves to be the case, anyone with a local call to an ISP will
>>have local access to the NRL.
>>--

>>Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
>>Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

>>> Does this mean local access numbers in Canada?
>>> I sure hope so. I payed 310 bucks for my first month
>>> on the open beta test. It was WELL worth it for entertainment
>>> value in my book, but my wife didnt think so :)))
>According to the TEN multiplayer provider, They have exclusive rights
>to the NRL. From what I understand we will have to join them to race.

I found the information on C-NET's page.

by **Mike Schreine** » Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Please keep us informed!!!!!
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by **David Marti** » Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:00:00

> http://www.ten.net/html/ten__company_info.html

> According to the link above, Papyrus is currently partnering with TEN. It
> doesn't mention anything about Sierra though...

> And according to the pricing plan I saw, it is $30 a month for unlimited
> play time. Yes, this is much cheaper than the $100+ phone bills to play on
> Hawaii... man, there goes another hunk of change.

> There is a $10 month plan, but you only get 5 hours a month, with each
> additional hour costing $0.95.

> So, you wanted to know the price for NRL? If the info at the above URL can
> be believed, this is how much.

> Robert

At $30/month, how difficult will it be to get on to the system. Right
now we get busy signals during peak times. When the system goes public,
they expect to at least double their volume. I, for one, hope they put
a reasonable limit on access. Otherwise, the degaheads will end up
hogging access for hours on end, while those who need to get on for
quality racing will have to wait. I only need to have about 20 hours of
racing time per month. That's 5 hours per week. Plenty enough time to
run 2 50% length races. If everyone is limited this way, hopefully
noone should complain.

David Martin

by **Mike Marshal** » Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:00:00

> At $30/month, how difficult will it be to get on to the system. Right
> now we get busy signals during peak times. When the system goes public,
> they expect to at least double their volume. I, for one, hope they put
> a reasonable limit on access. Otherwise, the degaheads will end up
> hogging access for hours on end, while those who need to get on for
> quality racing will have to wait. I only need to have about 20 hours of
> racing time per month. That's 5 hours per week. Plenty enough time to
> run 2 50% length races. If everyone is limited this way, hopefully
> noone should complain.

> David Martin

Just my $.02, but my understanding of this whole venture is that Hawaii
is a beta and with that test-platform status goes some limitations,
whether they be number of users at a time or otherwise. The NRL on the
other hand, as a commercial venture, would not be so constrained - ie.
the more people sign up, the more cash is infused in the system, the
more servers, and so on, and so on! Don't you think that they will be
increasing their capacity in anticipation of all the new drivers?
Nothing scares people away from an online service like the inability to
log on. I personally have faith that they have enough bean counters and
eggheads up there to do some heavy duty cost and usage analysis before
they dump all their money into the venture. I may be proven wrong, but
lets see it happen before we try to impose limitations on all those
cash-spending 'degaheads'. They are probably what will keep such a
large undertaking afloat, as they come in such shear numbers. ;)

Mike
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by **Sean Graha** » Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Yeah the cable internet connections are available right now in Canada
via Rogers Cable, but only in a small test market near Toronto. I've
been told they should be available throughout Canada sometime in early
97.

Supposedly the speed is around the 400,000 baud rate right now. I heard
the price however is going to be around 60 dollars a month for unlimited
access, which includes the cable box you need to hook up and all other
cables, wires etc. Sounds promising.

by **Robert Johnso** » Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Is the same price as ISDN, and a lot faster. Sounds good. And
installation prices? The computer hardware required? Questions,
questions....

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