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The Omnipotent O

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by The Omnipotent O » Mon, 03 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Ed,
What type of system is Papyrus envisioning for Hawaii? I'm sure everyone
would be willing to "pay to play" but these phone bills are ***. Will
the actual system allow connection through a local phone #?

Ed Mart

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by Ed Mart » Tue, 04 Jun 1996 04:00:00


At E3 last month, we announced the future for Hawaii... NASCAR has
sanctioned us as their 13th & newest division -- the NASCAR Racing
League. "Hawaii" is the prototype for NRL.  

NRL will use NASCAR Racing 2 which is due out this Christmas.  It will
feature the user pickup races & user created series races that Hawaii
now offers.  It will also feature fully sanctioned NRL series races.
Without getting into all of the details, NRL series will be as close
to the other 12 NASCAR divisions as possible  Users will actually join
NASCAR & become licensed drivers.  NRL series will be run like Winston
Cup

We ave not announced specifics about NRL yet... like pricing, release
date, "how to connect", etc.  However, you can feel pretty confident
that we will have local access number for everyone.

The complete press release for NRL & NASCAR Racing 2 can be found at
NASCAR.COM & SIERRA.COM.
Ed Martin
Producer, Series Director
NASCAR Racing League
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Dan Drur

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by Dan Drur » Wed, 05 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Please don't leave Dayton OH off your list of local access numbers!

>==========Ed Martin, 6/3/96==========


>>Ed,
>>What type of system is Papyrus envisioning for Hawaii? I'm sure
>everyone
>>would be willing to "pay to play" but these phone bills are
>***. Will
>>the actual system allow connection through a local phone #?

>At E3 last month, we announced the future for Hawaii... NASCAR has
>sanctioned us as their 13th & newest division -- the NASCAR Racing
>League. "Hawaii" is the prototype for NRL.  

>NRL will use NASCAR Racing 2 which is due out this Christmas.  It will
>feature the user pickup races & user created series races that Hawaii
>now offers.  It will also feature fully sanctioned NRL series races.
>Without getting into all of the details, NRL series will be as close
>to the other 12 NASCAR divisions as possible  Users will actually join
>NASCAR & become licensed drivers.  NRL series will be run like Winston
>Cup

>We ave not announced specifics about NRL yet... like pricing, release
>date, "how to connect", etc.  However, you can feel pretty confident
>that we will have local access number for everyone.

>The complete press release for NRL & NASCAR Racing 2 can be found at
>NASCAR.COM & SIERRA.COM.
>Ed Martin
>Producer, Series Director
>NASCAR Racing League
>Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Chuck Norto

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by Chuck Norto » Wed, 05 Jun 1996 04:00:00


> Please don't leave Dayton OH off your list of local access numbers!
> Will there be 800 #'s for those areas without local access numbers and if

not will you be charging those people hourly rates on top of there LD
charges?

Chuck Norton

Ed Mart

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by Ed Mart » Thu, 06 Jun 1996 04:00:00



>> Please don't leave Dayton OH off your list of local access numbers!
>> Will there be 800 #'s for those areas without local access numbers and if
>not will you be charging those people hourly rates on top of there LD
>charges?
>Chuck Norton


Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using
some other ISP's network backbone.  Therefore, the location of local
access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the
surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP.  

With that said, I think you'll be OK in Dayton.
Ed Martin
Producer, Series Director
NASCAR Racing League
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Mike Carrother

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by Mike Carrother » Thu, 06 Jun 1996 04:00:00


writes:



>>> Please don't leave Dayton OH off your list of local access numbers!
>>> Will there be 800 #'s for those areas without local access numbers
and if
>>not will you be charging those people hourly rates on top of there LD
>>charges?

>>Chuck Norton

>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using
>some other ISP's network backbone.  Therefore, the location of local
>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the
>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP.  

>With that said, I think you'll be OK in Dayton.
>Ed Martin
>Producer, Series Director
>NASCAR Racing League
>Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Alright Ed. Now the real question. WHEN??!! How has the Beta test been
going? Are there still bugs with mulitplayer, or are you still trying
to work out details with the ISV (they can be a *** huh?)?? I'm not
sure how much longer I can spend $150 a month to run this deal.

PLEASE GIVE US A HINT OF A DATE.

Mike (Parnelli)

Tony Joh

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by Tony Joh » Thu, 06 Jun 1996 04:00:00


shooting through ***space:

Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-)

(Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest
throughput)
--

IWCCCARS Project Coordinator
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~iwcc/project.htm
Hawaii Racer ID: IWCCCARS

John Simmo

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by John Simmo » Thu, 06 Jun 1996 04:00:00



>>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using
>>some other ISP's network backbone.  Therefore, the location of local
>>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the
>>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP.  

>Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-)

>(Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest
>throughput)

And I'm hoping the ISP isn't netcom or webcom...

/===================================================\
| John Simmons (Redneck Techno-Biker)               |

| http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/index.html   |
|===================================================|
| IGN #12 Zerex American Eagle Motorsports Ford     |
| http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/aemmain.html |
| Hawaii NickName - AEMwest                         |
|===================================================|
| 93 FLSTC - 54,000 miles and counting                      |
| Harley Scum Biker (tm) #14                                            |
\===================================================/

David J. Ran

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by David J. Ran » Fri, 07 Jun 1996 04:00:00




>>>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using
>>>some other ISP's network backbone.  Therefore, the location of local
>>>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the
>>>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP.  

>>Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-)

>>(Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest
>>throughput)
>And I'm hoping the ISP isn't netcom or webcom...

If I remember correctly, The Imagination Network is owned by Sierra.
Papyrus is now part of Sierra. Wouldn't it be just as easy to switch
over or add a couple of dialups  INN has in each city to dial Hawaii
instead?

BTW, any chance that you can add a chalkboard or something on the
bottom of the screen during replays to show lap speed and position?
Certainly would help when replaying multi races from Hawaii.

David Range

>/===================================================\
>| John Simmons (Redneck Techno-Biker)               |

>| http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/index.html   |
>|===================================================|
>| IGN #12 Zerex American Eagle Motorsports Ford     |
>| http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/aemmain.html |
>| Hawaii NickName - AEMwest                         |
>|===================================================|
>| 93 FLSTC - 54,000 miles and counting                          |
>| Harley Scum Biker (tm) #14                                                |
>\===================================================/

Ed Mart

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by Ed Mart » Fri, 07 Jun 1996 04:00:00



>writes:



>>>> Please don't leave Dayton OH off your list of local access numbers!
>>>> Will there be 800 #'s for those areas without local access numbers
>and if
>>>not will you be charging those people hourly rates on top of there LD
>>>charges?

>>>Chuck Norton

>>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using
>>some other ISP's network backbone.  Therefore, the location of local
>>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the
>>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP.  

>>With that said, I think you'll be OK in Dayton.
>>Ed Martin
>>Producer, Series Director
>>NASCAR Racing League
>>Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

>Alright Ed. Now the real question. WHEN??!! How has the Beta test been
>going? Are there still bugs with mulitplayer, or are you still trying
>to work out details with the ISV (they can be a *** huh?)?? I'm not
>sure how much longer I can spend $150 a month to run this deal.
>PLEASE GIVE US A HINT OF A DATE.
>Mike (Parnelli)

The testing has been going very very well from our perspective... but
you need to understand that Hawaii is just a prototye for the NASCAR
Racing League.  What we learn here will be used to perfect NASCAR 2 &
the infrastructure for NRL.

A date?  I think it's fair to say that NRL will probably not ship in
the box with NASCAR 2 this November (don't worry, it will be a free
upgrade for people who buy NASCAR 2).  I don't mean to be evasive, but
I don't even know the date, & I'm the Producer for the project!  That
date is contingent on signing up with our network provider.  Best
guess I can give you for NRL is "sometime in 1997".  Sorry. :-(

Ed Martin
Producer, Series Director
NASCAR Racing League
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Mike Carrother

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by Mike Carrother » Fri, 07 Jun 1996 04:00:00


writes:


>shooting through ***space:

>>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using
>>some other ISP's network backbone.  Therefore, the location of local
>>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the
>>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP.  

>>With that said, I think you'll be OK in Dayton.

>Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-)

>(Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest
>throughput)
>--

>IWCCCARS Project Coordinator
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/~iwcc/project.htm
>Hawaii Racer ID: IWCCCARS

Tony-

Is anybody OK in Utah? Just Kidding. Wish I could live at Snowbird or
Alta.

SeeYa

Mike

Ed Mart

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by Ed Mart » Fri, 07 Jun 1996 04:00:00



>shooting through ***space:
>>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using
>>some other ISP's network backbone.  Therefore, the location of local
>>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the
>>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP.  

>>With that said, I think you'll be OK in Dayton.
>Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-)
>(Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest
>throughput)
>--

>IWCCCARS Project Coordinator
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/~iwcc/project.htm
>Hawaii Racer ID: IWCCCARS

Hopefully, it will even play in Peoria!

Ed Martin
Producer, Series Director
NASCAR Racing League
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Ed Mart

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by Ed Mart » Fri, 07 Jun 1996 04:00:00





>>>>Again, I can't get into specifics, but we will most likely be using
>>>>some other ISP's network backbone.  Therefore, the location of local
>>>>access numbers and the availability of an 800 substitute (and the
>>>>surcharge for any 800 number) is a function of the ISP.  

>>>Yeah, Ed, but will I be okay in Utah? :-)

>>>(Hoping that the ISP doesn't still have 2400 baud as their highest
>>>throughput)
>>And I'm hoping the ISP isn't netcom or webcom...
>If I remember correctly, The Imagination Network is owned by Sierra.
>Papyrus is now part of Sierra. Wouldn't it be just as easy to switch
>over or add a couple of dialups  INN has in each city to dial Hawaii
>instead?
>BTW, any chance that you can add a chalkboard or something on the
>bottom of the screen during replays to show lap speed and position?
>Certainly would help when replaying multi races from Hawaii.
>David Range
>>/===================================================\
>>| John Simmons (Redneck Techno-Biker)               |

>>| http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/index.html   |
>>|===================================================|
>>| IGN #12 Zerex American Eagle Motorsports Ford     |
>>| http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/aemmain.html |
>>| Hawaii NickName - AEMwest                         |
>>|===================================================|
>>| 93 FLSTC - 54,000 miles and counting                      |
>>| Harley Scum Biker (tm) #14                                            |
>>\===================================================/

Correction, INN WAS owned by Sierra.  We sold it to AT&T almost 2
years ago.  

Currently, INN utilizes a combination of SprintNet & a proprietary
AT&T network.  Neither of which is low latency (at least low enough
latency for NRL).  INN has announced that they are moving to an "open"
internet architecture & showed their new interface at E3 last month.
That doesn't help latency... it just makes it worse.

With all of that said, given Sierra's relationship with INN, they are
one of the providers we are talking to.

Ed Martin
Producer, Series Director
NASCAR Racing League
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Mike Carrother

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by Mike Carrother » Fri, 07 Jun 1996 04:00:00

So we'll be paying LD charges until "sometime in 1997"? Not good. Oh
well...

Mike

David J. Ran

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by David J. Ran » Sat, 08 Jun 1996 04:00:00



>>If I remember correctly, The Imagination Network is owned by Sierra.
>>Papyrus is now part of Sierra. Wouldn't it be just as easy to switch
>>over or add a couple of dialups  INN has in each city to dial Hawaii
>>instead?
>>BTW, any chance that you can add a chalkboard or something on the
>>bottom of the screen during replays to show lap speed and position?
>>Certainly would help when replaying multi races from Hawaii.
>>David Range
>Correction, INN WAS owned by Sierra.  We sold it to AT&T almost 2
>years ago.  

Geez, I'd hate to see what AT&T did to it.

Thanks for the info. I was unsure if INN had been sold, but it seemed
a good guess if it hadn't. :)   Any chance that you will be adding the
"chalkboard" in replays? It'd be a great help when tormenting a friend
over a Hawaii race! <G> Or crying over running out of gas on the next
to last lap at Atlanta when you're 5 seconds ahead of the 2nd place
car, going for your first win! ARGGGHHHHH!

David Range
Hawaii- "DJR"  

David Range


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