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To Ed Martin: Hawaii - Deliberate Crashing

Bill Niemey

To Ed Martin: Hawaii - Deliberate Crashing

by Bill Niemey » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00

I had suspected that there were drivers on Hawaii that were deliberately
crashing and now I've got a replay to show it. In a race at Watkins Glen on
Tuesday night, someone named "falconiscooll" drove straight at the first turn
apex, accelerating all the way in, getting to 140 mph before he hit somebody
(or actually a lot of bodies). I've got the replay to show it. This has got to
be intentional.

Isn't there some way to police this kind of screwing around? In non-virtual
NASCAR, somebody would get shown the door immediately. Can't Papyrus boot
somebody for this as well as bad language?

Bill

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Tim Dal

To Ed Martin: Hawaii - Deliberate Crashing

by Tim Dal » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00


writes:

Bill:
We have gotten people banned. We had a replay and we all complained to

great race going. This doofuss rolled onto the track and sat there in
the tri-oval just out of sight and then pulled right in front as all
the leaders came around.  It was blatent.  Hawaii just deleted his
account and he had to call them to explain.  

(IMHO )The fact of the matter is that he can just log in as another
driver.  Some people have more than one account already. .... so I
don't know what they can do other than to take away skill points and
make them start as 0's again.

Tim Daley
59 Chevy Biscayne

Ed Mart

To Ed Martin: Hawaii - Deliberate Crashing

by Ed Mart » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00


>I had suspected that there were drivers on Hawaii that were deliberately
>crashing and now I've got a replay to show it. In a race at Watkins Glen on
>Tuesday night, someone named "falconiscooll" drove straight at the first turn
>apex, accelerating all the way in, getting to 140 mph before he hit somebody
>(or actually a lot of bodies). I've got the replay to show it. This has got to
>be intentional.
>Isn't there some way to police this kind of screwing around? In non-virtual
>NASCAR, somebody would get shown the door immediately. Can't Papyrus boot
>somebody for this as well as bad language?
>Bill
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Please send me the replay & we'll take a look.

Ed Martin
Producer, Series Director
NASCAR Racing League
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Duckma

To Ed Martin: Hawaii - Deliberate Crashing

by Duckma » Sat, 06 Jul 1996 04:00:00


> I had suspected that there were drivers on Hawaii that were deliberately
> crashing and now I've got a replay to show it. In a race at Watkins Glen on
> Tuesday night, someone named "falconiscooll" drove straight at the first turn
> apex, accelerating all the way in, getting to 140 mph before he hit somebody
> (or actually a lot of bodies). I've got the replay to show it. This has got to
> be intentional.

> Isn't there some way to police this kind of screwing around? In non-virtual
> NASCAR, somebody would get shown the door immediately. Can't Papyrus boot
> somebody for this as well as bad language?

> Bill

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I too have had a problem with this BOZO !!!

Everyone take note the UID was falcon5iscool

He would get his car lined up at the start finish line and then begin to Threaten people
with Desturction and start a countdown then he would drive head on into the leader of
the race.

He did this throughout an entire race and clearly had no intention on doing any racing
at all.

begin Caps LOCK:

ATTN. ED YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE HIS PERSONAL SIGNUP INFO IN YOUR SYSTEM. CANT YOU SIMPLY
LOOK HIM UP AND BAN HIM FROM THE ENTIRE PROJECT!!!

end caps lock

Please ED

Charlie Hea

To Ed Martin: Hawaii - Deliberate Crashing

by Charlie Hea » Tue, 09 Jul 1996 04:00:00


>I had suspected that there were drivers on Hawaii that were deliberately
>crashing and now I've got a replay to show it. In a race at Watkins Glen on

>Tuesday night, someone named "falconiscooll" drove straight at the first
>turn apex, accelerating all the way in, getting to 140 mph before he hit
>somebody (or actually a lot of bodies). I've got the replay to show it. This
>has got to be intentional.

>Isn't there some way to police this kind of screwing around? In non-virtual

>NASCAR, somebody would get shown the door immediately. Can't Papyrus boot
>somebody for this as well as bad language?

Bill, we've got two systems in place to assist with this sort of problem.
First is the ratings system, which allows drivers to prove their merit and
get to higher levels where racing is generally cleaner.  Second is series
racing, which allows people to get into races where they know who they're
driving against so groups of people can self-select the type of racing
they'd like to do.

Neither of these systems is perfect, but neither would it be perfect if we
could have a human being watching each race and scolding users who
misbehave (with the added disadvantage that this would cost you guys an arm
and a leg to pay the referees).  We're trying to set up a community where
rules can be self enforcing, rather than a system which requires a lot of
intervention on a case by case basis by Papyrus.

On the profanity issue, I believe Ed has been contacting people who have
exhibited excess in language and requesting that they mind their manners,
which will be followed up by a suspension from the service if the behavior
persists.  From my limited observations, this seems to have improved the
situation.  I'll let Ed clarify or amplify on our policies on profanity.

Charlie Heath
Papyrus Design Group

Kenneth Howe

To Ed Martin: Hawaii - Deliberate Crashing

by Kenneth Howe » Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:00:00


> On the profanity issue, I believe Ed has been contacting people who have
> exhibited excess in language and requesting that they mind their manners,
> which will be followed up by a suspension from the service if the behavior
> persists.  From my limited observations, this seems to have improved the
> situation.  I'll let Ed clarify or amplify on our policies on profanity.

> Charlie Heath
> Papyrus Design Group

It's gotten alot better...Moron seems to be the buzz word. :)

KenH

Kenneth Howe

To Ed Martin: Hawaii - Deliberate Crashing

by Kenneth Howe » Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:00:00


> On the profanity issue, I believe Ed has been contacting people who have
> exhibited excess in language and requesting that they mind their manners,
> which will be followed up by a suspension from the service if the behavior
> persists.  From my limited observations, this seems to have improved the
> situation.  I'll let Ed clarify or amplify on our policies on profanity.

> Charlie Heath
> Papyrus Design Group

It's gotten alot better...Moron seems to be the buzz word. :)

KenH

BONHAM

To Ed Martin: Hawaii - Deliberate Crashing

by BONHAM » Wed, 17 Jul 1996 04:00:00

I've seen him in action also, except he went under the name "Falcon"


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